Please recommend Chicago tattoo shop

For quite some time I have wanted a tattoo (my first) to represent my
relationship with my wife and our kids.

This past weekend, my wife had a brain aneurism. They caught it
early, but we still have a hard road over the next week.

She is at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, right downtown.

We live 3 hours from Chicago, but now, of course, I find myself there.

Now more than ever I want to get this tattoo.

Can anyone personally recommend a shop nearby?

I know from Googling that there are MANY in Chicago. So I was hoping
for personal recommendations from people with great things to say
about a particular shop/artist.

Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com wrote:
> For quite some time I have wanted a tattoo (my first) to represent my
> relationship with my wife and our kids.
>
> This past weekend, my wife had a brain aneurism. They caught it
> early, but we still have a hard road over the next week.
>
> She is at Northwestern Memorial Hospital, right downtown.
>
> We live 3 hours from Chicago, but now, of course, I find myself there.
>
> Now more than ever I want to get this tattoo.
>
> Can anyone personally recommend a shop nearby?
>
> I know from Googling that there are MANY in Chicago. So I was hoping
> for personal recommendations from people with great things to say
> about a particular shop/artist.

*That's the second time you ask this.
How many time must one answer?
quote:


> "Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com" <> wrote:
> Mt> Does anyone have personal recommendations for a good tattoo shop in
> Mt> the Chicago area?
>
> http://compunction.org/tattoos.html lists several.
>
> patrick cornolo designed pieces for me through email, then
> applied each during a single appointment. email an artist & ask. be
> prepared to pay a deposit for the art.
>
> lish

>*That's the second time you ask this.
>How many time must one answer?
>quote:


I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...I can get that
from Google. I was asking for someone who has had PERSONAL
EXPERIENCE.

Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com wrote:
[...

> I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...
> I can get that from Google. I was asking for someone
> who has had PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

Don't bother arguing, Mitch. I suspect you'll get nowhere fast. Unless,
of course, you get satisfaction from calling a jerk... a jerk. Then,
hey, by all means!

Getting a tattoo to represent your relationship with your wife and kids
is a wonderful idea, of course. How is your wife? Wishing her a speedy
and (more importantly) full recovery, of course.

re Northwestern Memorial Hospital

While at the hospital, you may want to keep your eyes peeled for any
nurses, hosp employees with nice art. It's possible you might find
someone with local knowledge that way, but I'd recommend you pick up
the local phone book and then visit a few shops nearby.

[...]

> Can anyone personally recommend a shop nearby?

Lish offered a name and a bit of anecdotal schtufff. Have you contacted
Patrick Cornolo?

And Golgotha, maybe? Unfortunately, he's absent of late.

> I know from Googling that there are MANY in Chicago. So I was
> hoping for personal recommendations from people with great things
> to say about a particular shop/artist.

Have you Googled RAB's archives? See:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...rch+this+group
aka http://tinyurl.com/fllwc

Again, best wishes to your wife (and you and your family).

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

"Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com" <> wrote:
Mt> I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...I can get that
Mt> from Google. I was asking for someone who has had PERSONAL
Mt> EXPERIENCE.

that's exactly what i gave you, you whiny little git.

lish "well, it took a lot of work
crank@got.net to be the ass that i am." -mm
43.9% / 30 RANA 125 / 68

Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com wrote:
C> >*That's the second time you ask this.
C> >How many time must one answer?
C> >quote:
>
>
M> I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...I can get that
M> from Google. I was asking for someone who has had PERSONAL
M> EXPERIENCE.

Let your wife die and then get a memorial tattoo.

Then you can get the tattoo in any fucking city you want.

Of course, you'll probably have to come back and ask us what tattoo you
should get to commemorate such a loving relationship.


Kavin

KavinTaylor@gmail.com <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let your wife die and then get a memorial tattoo.
>
> Then you can get the tattoo in any fucking city you want.
>
> Of course, you'll probably have to come back and ask us what tattoo you
> should get to commemorate such a loving relationship.

i can't help but wonder why he thinks that "in the middle of a crisis
situation" is a good time to get a tattoo.

Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com wrote:

>
> I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...I can get that
> from Google. I was asking for someone who has had PERSONAL
> EXPERIENCE.

*Please chill and assume less.

Let me explain extensively: you aren't familiar with the people here.
You obviously didn't check the list.

"The list" is a quality review from personal experience(s).
Lish is considered a tattoo authority/expert on at least two continents.


I understand you are under quite some stress but saying something isn't
relevant (while you skipped it) won't help you achieve your goal.

While you're at it have a informative read and let yourself be humored:

http://www.yttrx.net/oldyttrx/rabsurv.txt

Corine

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. Albert Einstein

Kavin Taylor wrote:
[...]

> Let your wife die and then g<snip>

Hey, Kavin, friendly (okay, not so friendly) bit of advice:

Always wear your bicycle helmet. (Karma can be a motherfucker.)

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Corine wrote:
> Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com wrote:
>
> >
> > I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...I can get that
> > from Google. I was asking for someone who has had PERSONAL
> > EXPERIENCE.
>
> *Please chill and assume less.

You assume, too. Are you chill? My impression is... no.

> Let me explain extensively: you aren't familiar with the people here.
> You obviously didn't check the list.
>
> "The list" is

Nothing more than a list. Names of artists and studios. Occasionally
with dead links. Google does as good or better, imo. Consulting the
yellow pages and then following up with an in-person visit is much
better than relying on "the list".

> a quality review from personal experience(s).
> Lish is considered a tattoo authority/expert on at least two continents.

She's a person with ink. A canvas. An interesting combination of
arrogance and attitude, yes, but her list is lacking in that there are
no anecdotes and it's absolutely dated.

> I understand you are under quite some stress but saying something isn't
> relevant (while you skipped it) won't help you achieve your goal.

Here's your assumption showing. He said "I can get that from Google."
wrt to lish's list. And he obviously followed the link in order to note
that fact.

What have you done to help him achieve his goal? Thought so.

> While you're at it have a informative read and let yourself be humored:
>
> http://www.<snip>

That person has nothing to offer. Their writing, though humorous to
some, is more often than not useless, imo. Some might call them bitter,
confused, and conflicted.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com wrote:

> I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...

It's not a master list, it's a list of masters. Not a comprehensive one
mind you, but a list of masters nonetheless. Google would give you a
list of *self-proclaimed* masters at best.

> I was asking for someone who has had PERSONAL
> EXPERIENCE.

Personal experience means nothing if the person doesn't know a thing
about tattoos. There are obviously a lot of people running around who
are very happy with their mediocre tattoos simply because they don't
know any better.

If you had looked closely, you'd have noticed that Lish a) has very high
standards for tattoo quality and b)*does* have personal experience with
one of the Chicago artists. I know three more people personally who have
top-notch work from that same artist.

Nina
--
C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
Louis Pasteur
http://www.chaotropic.net

Nina Baltes wrote:
> Mitch@this_is_not_a_real_address.com wrote:
>
> > I wasn't asking for a master list of tattoo shops...
>
> It's not a master list, it's a list of masters.

Oh my God.

The so-called "great" list of lish-approved tattooists is nothing more
than a list of artists. Yes, many who create stunning, award-winning
work, but certainly the fact that lish created the list has nothing at
all to do with the quality of said work.

List of masters versus master list was catchy, though, Nina. Kudos to
you for your wit. Still, and for the love of Pete (or whoever the
patron saint of pomposity might be), it's JUST a list. A list that lish
made up.

How'd she do that? Gee. She's been tattooed by the artist. Or she only
saw *one* tattoo by the artist or only ONE that she liked enough to
check credits but it was "really nice"...

Really nice? Well, if that's not a reason to call someone a MASTER
TATTOO ARTIST...

And, by her own admission, "this means the artist has potential, but
it's not a solid recommendation." How does ~*THAT*~ qualifier denote a
list of masters, Nina?

1337 (|-|i(: "It's not a solid recommendation."
über fan: "B-b-but it's a List of MAAAAsters!"

Lish's flippant, imo, "! = i extra-bonus-a-lot like this artist." gives
me the sense that her list is just as much an example of her taking the
opportunitiy to offer up some witty writing as much as it is a
magnanimous example of her providing a list of artists for those
individuals seeking quality tattooists. YmmOBVIOUSLYv.

Lish also states, "many of these recommendations come from seeing work
in tattoo mags or on websites." How does that make her list any more...
important than a list an individual, any individual, could create on
their own?

Tattoo fan: "Dude. Cool list. How'd you create such a... WONDER!?"
Potentially Anyone on the Planet: "Uh, I looked at tattoo mags and a
buncha Web sites."

Whatever.

http://www.compunction.org/tattoos.html

It's a tool. It's not the holy grail.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/




> Not a comprehensive one
> mind you, but a list of masters nonetheless. Google would give you a
> list of *self-proclaimed* masters at best.
>
> > I was asking for someone who has had PERSONAL
> > EXPERIENCE.
>
> Personal experience means nothing if the person doesn't know a thing
> about tattoos. There are obviously a lot of people running around who
> are very happy with their mediocre tattoos simply because they don't
> know any better.
>
> If you had looked closely, you'd have noticed that Lish a) has very high
> standards for tattoo quality and b)*does* have personal experience with
> one of the Chicago artists. I know three more people personally who have
> top-notch work from that same artist.
>
> Nina
> --
> C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
> Louis Pasteur
> http://www.chaotropic.net

Curt James wrote:

> How does that make her list any more...
> important than a list an individual, any individual, could create on
> their own?

As an example, a list compiled by someone who believes that there are no
bad tattoos would be worthless at best.

> It's a tool.

Gee. Just like you.

Nina
--
C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
Louis Pasteur
http://www.chaotropic.net

Nina Baltes wrote:
> Curt James wrote:
>
> > How does that make her list any more...
> > important than a list an individual, any individual,
> > could create on their own?
>
> As an example, a list compiled by someone who
> believes that there are no bad tattoos would be
> worthless at best.

Hey, everyone's welcome to their opinion, Nina. Thanks for offering
yours.

Art is subjective and ever will be. What you like I may detest and the
other way around, of course. I say holding a belief that there are no
bad tattoos would not... *does not* disallow the ability to compare and
contrast existing tattoos. Stating there are no bad tattoos opens up
the possibility of a discussion of technique (or lack thereof) and
intent. To wit:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...dfe0adeb50f455
aka http://tinyurl.com/qrsnt

If you discount certain tattoos then you're limiting that discussion.

Good for me would be a tattoo that I enjoy looking at. I have two color
tattoos and the one blackwork which is not much more than an inkblot.
Each has its own personality or memory that I associate with it. And as
I run into people and show off or share my tattoos - typically the
Calvin - another memory is associated with the tattoo.

Bad and good, so far as tattoos are concerned, are dependent on the
individual, imo. I suggest that individuals should not lose sight of
what they enjoy and the art that appeals to them rather than the art
they're told is somehow better.

Yes, imo, there are no bad tattoos. There are, however, tattoos that
you like or that you don't like for personal reasons.

Still, http://www.badtattoos.com/tattoos/ (real link) sounds hella
cooler than
http://www.tattoosthatilikeordonotli...reasons. com/
(imaginary link).

> > It's a tool.
>
> Gee. Just like you.

Like you're her tool? But do keep on spreading the gospel, Nina.

Or like you're my tool? ;o) Unintentional perhaps.

> Nina
>
> C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
> Louis Pasteur
> http://www.chaotropic.net

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

The Queen of Cans and Jars wrote:

> i can't help but wonder why he thinks that "in the middle of a crisis
> situation" is a good time to get a tattoo.

He's probably one of those that thinks a 'crisis' in his life makes for
a crisis in our lives.


Kavin