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Hey,
I have a tattoo idea that keeps coming into mind and just want some general thoughts. I'm looking to have some words tattooed and just want to know peoples general thoughts. Plus I was wondering your thoughts on how to best make it come out because I find that words can be very finicky when it comes to coming out well. Thanks, TC |
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On Jun 3, 9:42 pm, TC <travelclar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, > > I have a tattoo idea that keeps coming into mind and just want some > general thoughts. I'm looking to have some words tattooed and just want > to know peoples general thoughts. The words should want to be tattooed . . . Kavin |
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TC wrote:
> <snip> I'm looking to have some words > tattooed and just want to know peoples > general thoughts. Plus I was <snip> Have you visited any of the big box booksellers recently? Body Type: Intimate Messages Etched in Flesh by Ina Saltz, Wendy Koontz (Illustrator) http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...10970502&itm=3 aka http://tinyurl.com/2bhbts -- Curt |
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I own that book.Its good.
"Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1180987266.471925.93910@q66g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com... > TC wrote: > >> <snip> I'm looking to have some words >> tattooed and just want to know peoples >> general thoughts. Plus I was <snip> > > Have you visited any of the big box booksellers recently? > > Body Type: Intimate Messages Etched in Flesh > by Ina Saltz, Wendy Koontz (Illustrator) > > http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...10970502&itm=3 > aka http://tinyurl.com/2bhbts > > -- > Curt > |
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Norm³ wrote:
re Body Type: Intimate Messages Etched in Flesh by Ina Saltz, Wendy Koontz (Illustrator) http://tinyurl.com/2bhbts > I own that book. Cool. > Its good. Agreed. I've browsed it a number of times, but haven't bought it yet. There's a new one (for me anyway) that I saw tonight at Barnes & Noble. It's titled Tattoo Art & Design. Paperback ISBN: 0789315289 Pub. Date: April 2007 >From the Publisher Tattoos are sexy, fashionable, and creative. This compendium features over 480 designs by the world's leading young graphic artists for tattoos that are new, different, and edgy. Little has appeared that explores fresh designs for tattoos by contemporary graphic artists and designers. Tattoo Art & Design corrects this with designs by over 60 of today's up-and-coming designers. They draw inspiration from diverse cultures and media, and bridge the highly graphic world of skin art and the exploding creativity in graphic design communities worldwide. Among the featured designers are Kinpro, Klaus Haapaniemi, Marcus Oakley, Rex Koo, Rinzen, Musa Collective, and Stapelberg & Fritz. The designs featured here shatter the conventional notion of the tattoo. Gone are hearts inscribed with names, anchors, Celtic harps, or tribal bands. Instead, the tattoo designs are based on Japanese animé characters, abstract art, hip-hop culture, and Day-Glo pop art in a palette of vibrant colors and elaborate shapes. These fun and playful designs will inspire a new breed of tattoo artist as well as the next generation of graphic designers. /copy and paste from http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...89315281&itm=6 Some really fun designs and creative applications. -- Curt |
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On Jun 4, 9:51 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Norm³ wrote: NM> > Its good. > PIG> Agreed. What, don't want to piss him off? Not even a little helpful "By the way, you probably meant to use 'It's' and not 'Its'?" So with the rest of us, it's just whining on your part. By the way, if the pig dies, who would my partner be? Why don't we find out? Kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
[...] > > <snip> wrote: > > <snip>> > Its good. > > PIG> Agreed. > > What, don't want to piss him off? > Not even a little helpful "By the > way, you probably meant to use > 'It's' and not 'Its'?" You're critical and so I'm critical. See the connection? Don't like your error being pointed out? Make fewer errors, 'kay? > So with the rest of Here it comes... > us, The comforting cocoon of usweour. Never speak for yourself? > it's just whining on your part. Whatever. > By the way, if the pig dies, Careful, Kavvy. I believe there's been something of a reversal of late. > who would my partner be? Well, you wouldn't be dancing at all then. ;o) > Why don't we find out? No, no, no. Wishing you a long and happy, Kav. For you. I mean I might've had a second of doubt or the idea that I was making you unhappy, but, no. You make you unhappy, right? (Did I speel all that rihgt?) -- Curt |
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On Jun 5, 6:26 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote: > > [...] > > > > <snip> wrote: > > > <snip>> > Its good. > > > PIG> Agreed. > > > What, don't want to piss him off? > > Not even a little helpful "By the > > way, you probably meant to use > > 'It's' and not 'Its'?" > > You're critical and so I'm critical. See the connection? Classic. I hurt you because you hurt me is what YOU are saying. Tell me now you aren't the classic case of abandonment and rejection. Kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt wrote: [...] > > You're critical and so I'm critical. > > See the connection? > > Classic. I hurt you because you > hurt me is what YOU are saying. Telling that you would interpret it that way, Kavin. "You're critical and so I'm critical," is what I am saying. Nothing you've said or done has hurt me. And so you're perhaps no longer confused, Kavvy, I'm not trying to hurt you by pointing out your typos, contradictions, and - what some might call idiotic - behavior, but rather just shining a spotlight on those examples of your own humanity. We all make mistakes. Some more than others. Regardless and to repeat, you're critical and so I'm critical. Can't handle a bit of criticism then don't reply to my posts. Hth. > Tell me now you aren't the classic case > of abandonment and rejection. Go get 'em, Freud. ;o) -- Curt |
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On Jun 5, 3:42 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "You're critical and so I'm critical," is what I am saying. So it's not about being helpful? Thank you, Curt. I'm glad you can admit it. Tit for tat (notice the correct use of "tat") What you are saying is that as long as no one says anything critical of you, you won't say anything critical of them. So your criticism is based solely on a need to "get even." Not on facts. Just on the basis of you criticised me, so I must criticise you. Let's re-cap: -- Curt argues anything simply for the argument -- there is no bad tattoo according to Curt, because 'bad' is subjective. He ignores that 'good' then is subjective as well. And good cannot exist without bad. -- Criticism should only be used if someone has criticised you. Kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt wrote: > > > "You're critical and so I'm critical," > > is what I am saying. > > So it's not about being helpful? Oh, yeeeeaaaaah, that too, of course. I mean, I suspect you're much more careful when replying to me than when you're replying to other RABbits. So, so far as helping you to pay attention? Sure. > Thank you, Curt. Don't mention it, Kav. [...] > there is no bad tattoo according > to Curt, because 'bad' is subjective. > He ignores that 'good' then is > subjective as well. And good > cannot exist without bad. They're both subjective, yes? Both relative to your perspective. There's no fixed point so far as opinion goes especially wrt art. Tattoos are art, imo, so there's that. > <snip> criticised <snip> Okay, chap! ;o) -- Curt |
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On Jun 5, 8:55 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote: C> I suspect you're much C> more careful when replying to me than when you're replying to other C> RABbits. Now I can add delusional to your list of problems. > KT> > there is no bad tattoo according KT> > to Curt, because 'bad' is subjective. KT > > He ignores that 'good' then is KT > > subjective as well. And good KT > > cannot exist without bad. > C> They're both subjective, yes? But that means they both exist. Your words. They are both, BOTH, subjective. Kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt wrote: > > Kavin Taylor wrote: > > C> I suspect you're much > C> more careful when replying > C> to me than when you're > C> replying to other RABbits. > > Now I can add delusional to > your list of problems. heh :o) I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you actually have a little list of problems written out somewhere. > KT> > there is no bad tattoo according > KT> > to Curt, because 'bad' is subjective. > KT > > He ignores that 'good' then is > KT > > subjective as well. And good > KT > > cannot exist without bad. > > C> They're both subjective, yes? I love your sometimethereandsometimesnot attribution device, Kavvy. Anyway. > But that means they both exist. And? I wrote: "They're both subjective, yes?" Yes? Yes. You included it in your reply. But I also wrote: "Both relative to your perspective. There's no fixed point so far as opinion goes especially wrt art. Tattoos are art, imo, so there's that." Perspective and opinion. "There are no bad tattoos" is your semantics problem. Get over it. Or, hey, not. > Your words. Yes. My words and ones you seem to obsess over. Hey, what was that you said about delusional? > They are both, BOTH, subjective. Google groups our previous exchanges. You're crying about *semantics*. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Kav. Find someone who complains about what they consider a bad tattoo and I suspect there's another person who likes that very same tattoo. So, to them, yeah, it's not a bad tattoo. -- Curt |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt wrote: > > > "There are no bad tattoos" is your semantics problem. > > No, it's your problem Not my problem. > because it was your statement. A statement you have an issue with as you repeatedly choose to contradict it. Hence your problem. > By the way, just how ARE you using 'semantics'? Well, let's take a look see, shall we, Kavvy? Main Entry: se·man·tics Pronunciation: si-'man-tiks Function: noun plural but singular or plural in construction 1 : the study of meanings: a : the historical and psychological study and the classification of changes in the signification of words or forms viewed as factors in linguistic development b (1) : SEMIOTIC (2) : a branch of semiotic dealing with the relations between signs and what they refer to and including theories of denotation, extension, naming, and truth 2 : GENERAL SEMANTICS 3 a : the meaning or relationship of meanings of a sign or set of signs; especially : connotative meaning b : the language used (as in advertising or political propaganda) to achieve a desired effect on an audience especially through the use of words with novel or dual meanings /copy and paste from http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=semantics I'll go with 3 a. "There are no bad tattoos" is the statement you're hung up on. I Googled and found "Art is subjective. Imo, there are no bad tattoos. There are, however, tattoos that you like or that you don't like for personal reasons." Apparently there are some statements that you like or that you don't like for personal reasons as well. Best wishes to you, pal! -- Curt |