After My First Tattoo (some questions)

On Jun 13, 8:39 pm, sca...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 13, 12:37 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 13, 5:47 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Marian wrote:
>
> You get good answers from people with lots of well healed tattoos,
> and you reply to the group village idiot. Sigh.

I needed to pick a message to respond to instead of writing basically
the same kind of response to every message. His seemed as good a one
as any other to write a response to as any other.

> > > > The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
> > > > I started getting some ink colors on my sheets.
>
> > > I slept with my leg outside or on top the sheets.
>
> > > > Today is the evening of the third day. I've now
> > > > got a bandage
>
> > > On day three, Calvin saw no bandage. Neither did Hobbes. By then I was
> > > leaving it air dry with the very slightest hint of A&D ointment
> > > smoothed across its surface.
>
> > > > and extra amounts of wonderfully soothing
> > > > vaseline above and beyond the aftercare
> > > > ointment he gave me
>
> > > Likewise on the above and beyond action. Actually, none on the above
> > > and beyond. It was the wisp of A&D and nothing else.
>
> > The bandage was to keep the vaseline from making other things gunky.
> > It also keeps my fingernails away from it. The vaseline is like the
> > aftercare ointment only gloopier and more soothing. As I write this
> > my leg is open to the air and not currently itching.
>
> Do not put vaseline on it, it's responsible for the gunk. If it

Nothing but the aftercare ointment all day and I left the bandage off
keeping it open to the air.

> itches that's normal and you use self-control to not scratch it. You
> are throwing away the money you put into this tattoo by gooping it up
> the way you're doing. At the very least you will need a touch up.

Please explain to me the why behind this. I'm curious. Why is it
leaking color? Not a whole lot at first and even less now but
definitely color coming out in my sweat (noticeable on the top of my
sock from Sunday, didn't see it before) ...

> Oh, and please read this - approximately 98% of all rec.arts.bodyart
> users agree with the sentiments:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2suzqa
>
> Susan
> http://scamptattoo.com

On Jun 13, 8:26 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jun 13, 2:50 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/shouldwork. I've included
> > the first preliminary drawing (which is barely different from the
> > picture in the binder), the collection of botanical rose drawings and
> > the photo of a rose and rose thorns that I sent back, and the second
> > preliminary drawing.
>
> Anyone else creeped out about the cloth covering on the table?

He had a pad of that white stuff (three or four layers thick) between
the leg he was working on and the table and he kept replacing it with
fresh clean ones and throwing the old ones (which were icky with ink
and some blood) in the garbage.

-M

> You might need the antibiotics after all.
>
> Kavin

Marian wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > Marian wrote:
> > > Um, hi, I'm new here.
>
> > Welcome.
>
> > > <snip> Shock Trauma intensive care <snip>
>
> > Good to hear you survived.
>
> > Wait. You're not an axe murderer, are you?
>
> Not as last I checked.

Cool.

> > > Even before I had any clue of how
> > > extensive the damage to my leg was I
> > > knew it was going to be bad ugly.
>
> > With that kind of intro, I'm interested in
> > what actually happened.
>
> Chemical explosion caused by monumental
> stupidity on someone else's part.

Zoinks!

> Compound complex open tibia fibula fracture.
> The tibia was almost but not quite shattered
> while the fibula was merely a spiral fracture
> caused by my continuing to run (getting
> the hell out of there) after my leg was already
> broken.
>
> Brunt of the damage was my right leg.
> Some sunburn level mild chemical burns
> and lots and lots of tiny chicken pecks from
> shrapnel but I was very very very lucky.

>From the sound of it, your very presence is testimony to your luck.

> Because my hometown (Baltimore, MD) has
> a number of world class hospitals (like Johns
> Hopkins) I've consistently gotten top notch
> medical care and for followups have frequently
> been the only person in the waiting room who
> was even the slightest bit local.

More good fortune!

[...]

> > Is that Mandarin, Cantonese, other?
>
> The HSK is actually for written Chinese.
> I took the exam with the modern simplified
> characters. I can't understand a single word of
> spoken Cantonese but the grammar and
> vocabulary differences between the two
> don't really show up in writing at my level.

My former neighbor was a double major, graduated from Dickinson
College in Carlisle, PA and was fluent in Mandarin. Last I heard he
was back in China. He's about 5'10, blond, full beard - told me
stories of Chinese workers talking about him and then being suprised
when he spoke to them in their own language.

[...]

> > > The afternoon of the second day after the tattoo
> > > I started getting some ink colors on my sheets.
>
> > I slept with my leg outside or on top the sheets.
>
> > > Today is the evening of the third day. I've now
> > > got a bandage
[...]

> > > and I'm still seeing some colors when I
> > > change the bandage.
>
> > Stop with the bandages. Again, I was letting my tattoo uncovered and
> > with only the slightest dab of A&D. Like you, I was seeing some colors
> > but they weren't on a bandage. Instead the color was in the form of
> > ink sweats or however you'd like to describe it.

I saw your other inquiry re the sweats. It's a wound. It's going to
weep and then eventually stop. I used the A&D the first day or two and
then just let it go. Lots of air, dabbing it dry after showers, no
wash cloth or loofah action over the tattoo but instead just smoothing
soap gently over the design at most.

[...]

> > Otoh, I'm not looking out a window at
> > the tropics in China either.
>
> And there was this really nice mud puddle
> that I had to specifically not take my freshly
> rebuilt mountain bike through <sigh> last night
> when I decided to explore the area along the
> old railroad tracks.
> I've even go so far as to reschedule the
> mountain bike's virgin group ride for later in June.

I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. I prefer flat or slightly banked
highways and a motorized bike but, hey, enjoy your mud!

[...]

> > And super fast super new superdrugs? :oD
>
> Can be purchased at the hospital.

It wasn't a serious question. Just laughed at reading how you phased
it. SUPER fast SUPER new SUPERdrugs.

Super! :o)

[...]

> <snip> Cinammon oil is fabulous stuff for
> massage and is also a pretty good antibacterial.
> Strangely enough the one variety I know
> also works pretty good at keeping mosquitoes away.

[...]

Interesting.

I read a fiction book by James Rollins titled 'Amazonia' where they're
scouting through the jungle in search of a hidden tribe. A
pharmaceutical company is financing the trek in search of similar
herbal meds or mysteries.

--
Curt

Marian wrote:
[...]

re http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/calvin.html

> At 14:26 local time I accidentally clicked on this link (having
> predictably failed to get through the time I clicked on it on purpose)
> and -actually- got through. Cool tattoo. I really like the way the
> back of your ankle is the rear of the image on the front of your
> ankle.

(blink)

Hnh! Never looked at it that way. Cool.

> Mine is probably about 3/4s the size of your's and ran me 1500rmb
> total (about $195) for four hours including his final tweaks to the
> preliminary drawing, drawing it on my leg, outline, colors, two
> bathroom breaks, and a trip to the ATM.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/should work. I've included
> the first preliminary drawing (which is barely different from the
> picture in the binder), the collection of botanical rose drawings and
> the photo of a rose and rose thorns that I sent back, and the second
> preliminary drawing.
>
> -M

Thanks for the images! Excellent.

--
Curt

Marian wrote:
[...]

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/

[...]

Again, excellent photos.

You keep your mountain bike and I'll follow Mike's example:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/13/88...11bd32.jpg?v=0

http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/sportster.html

--
Curt

Marian wrote:
[...]

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/53374875@N00/

[...]

Again, excellent photos.

You keep your mountain bike and I'll follow Mike's example:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/13/88...11bd32.jpg?v=0

http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/sportster.html

--
Curt

On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:41:30 -0700, scamp3@gmail.com wrote:

>Oh, ok!
>Well, not really scamptattoo, but a couple of recent photos can be
>found at the bottom of <
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...4240&albumId=0

I'm just getting a big "I hate you and you can't look at the
pictures".

nj"now I know how you feel...."m


--
"I do not rhyme to that dull elf
Who cannot imagine to himself..."

On Jun 13, 11:47 am, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 13, 8:26 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

KT> > Anyone else creeped out about the cloth covering on the table?
>
M> He had a pad of that white stuff (three or four layers thick)
between
M> the leg he was working on and the table and he kept replacing it
with
M> fresh clean ones and throwing the old ones (which were icky with
ink
M> and some blood) in the garbage.

Yeah. I'd feel better if you had said he threw the cloth away. I'm
not a big fan of anything that will touch me having touched someone
else unless it has been autoclaved in situations like this. I know
the process isn't perfect as far as the equipment goes, but Jesus
Christ, no soft surfaces.

And please notice our resident village idiot keeps saying A & D
ointment. Ask him about his black blob tattoo. Ask him how he healed
that one.

Kavin

On Jun 13, 7:43 pm, N Jill Marsh <njma...@storm.ca> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:41:30 -0700, sca...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Oh, ok!
> >Well, not really scamptattoo, but a couple of recent photos can be
> >found at the bottom of <
>
> http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...er.viewPicture...
>
> I'm just getting a big "I hate you and you can't look at the
> pictures".
>
> nj"now I know how you feel...."m
>
> --
> "I do not rhyme to that dull elf
> Who cannot imagine to himself..."

I have no idea why that's happening... :( But I like you, Jill - I
really LIKE you!

Susan

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:49:43 -0700, scamp3@gmail.com wrote:

>On Jun 13, 7:43 pm, N Jill Marsh <njma...@storm.ca> wrote:
>
>> I'm just getting a big "I hate you and you can't look at the
>> pictures".
>
>I have no idea why that's happening... :( But I like you, Jill - I
>really LIKE you!

Yeah, sure, URLs speak louder than words. Than typed words, at any
rate.

nj"off to sulk, now"m

--
"I do not rhyme to that dull elf
Who cannot imagine to himself..."

On Jun 13, 11:50 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > His seemed as good a one
> > as any other to write a response to as any other.
>
> Notice he said A&D ointment. OINTMENT. Look up ointment.

I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
and people recommending it for tattoo healing.

> Scamp said lotion.

I'm not much of a beauty products kind of girl and I wasn't going to
mess around with Chinese skin lotion on my tattoo since the beautiful
goal of whiter skin is not so unoccasionally obtained by having bleach
as one of the ingredients.

I was following the logic that if vaseline bandages had been used on
my skin grafts to keep them from scabbing and itching... they would
also keep the tattoo from scabbing and itching.

-M

On Jun 14, 3:41 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Marian wrote:

>
> > <snip> Cinammon oil is fabulous stuff for
> > massage and is also a pretty good antibacterial.
> > Strangely enough the one variety I know
> > also works pretty good at keeping mosquitoes away.
>
> [...]
>
> Interesting.
>
> I read a fiction book by James Rollins titled 'Amazonia' where they're
> scouting through the jungle in search of a hidden tribe. A
> pharmaceutical company is financing the trek in search of similar
> herbal meds or mysteries.

Cinammon oil is hardly a mystery. Not quite as cheap in the US as it
is here but I've seen it around. It got a kind of menthol buzz to it
only with a cinammon smell. Clove oil (which contains many of the
same chemical compounds) used to be used as a cheap contact
anaesthetic, especially when you had dental pain but still had two or
three days before the dentist appointment.

-M

On 14 Jun., 05:48, Marian <marian.rosenb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
> and people recommending it for tattoo healing.

You'll find just as many recommending antibiotic ointment. You can
probably also find as many sites telling you that only cretins get
tattoos and that they'll burn in hell for it.

Many times, your body will heal *in spite of* what you're doing.
This is especially true for very small tattoos because the skin damage
is not really extensive. The bigger the freshly tattooed area, the
more intelligent care it requires.

> t much of a beauty products kind of girl and I wasn't going to
> mess around with Chinese skin lotion on my tattoo since the beautiful
> goal of whiter skin is not so unoccasionally obtained by having bleach
> as one of the ingredients.

Who said anything about such nonsense?

> I was following the logic that if vaseline bandages had been used on
> my skin grafts to keep them from scabbing and itching... they would
> also keep the tattoo from scabbing and itching.

I doubt that keeping in artificially inserted pigment is a concern
with skin grafts.
Wash it and put lotion on it whenever it feels dry and you'll be okay.
Put your leg up whenever you can. Lower leg tattoos often take
somewhat longer to heal because fluid accumulates during the day and
circulation isn't as good as in other parts of the body.

Oh, also: once any flakes and/or scabs have fallen off: SUNBLOCK! For
the rest of your life. Until then: no sun at all.

Nina

Marian <marian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just put A&D ointment into google and notice more than a few places
> and people recommending it for tattoo healing.

It's still shitty advice. You've been given the proper healing method.
Use it.

Or ruin your tattoo. It's your choice.

On Jun 14, 9:54 am, Nina Baltes <chaotro...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Oh, also: once any flakes and/or scabs have fallen off: SUNBLOCK! For
> the rest of your life. Until then: no sun at all.

I'll bet vampires have the prettiest tattoos . . .

Kavin