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On Jul 13, 12:20 pm, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you understand what the word curriculum means? Yes I do. Once again, you get caught in your attempt at being clever and you try to narrow a definition down. Try your little friend Wikipedia. Can you admit that you might be teaching math when you suggest that gray is one part black paint and one part white paint? Oh wait, that's not part of the art curriculum. Or perhaps you could be teaching ethics when you tell students they can't turn it another student's work as their own? Nope, not art at all. No Curt, the art curriculum is not just crayons and paper. Students don't just learn pretty colors when they use crayons. They might also learn a bit of physics. When a social studies teacher discusses how bronze caused a change in society, can't you see how chemistry is touched? Probably not. It's more important for Curt to try to appear clever. And I'd suggest you re-read the standards. It does suggest a bit more than you seem to believe. Kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt wrote: > > > Do you understand what the word curriculum means? > > Yes I do. No, apparently you don't. > Once again, you get caught in your attempt at being clever > and you try to narrow a definition down. Try your little friend > Wikipedia. Not necessary as it relates to this exchange. > Can you admit that you might be teaching math when you suggest > that gray is one part black paint and one part white paint? Oh wait, > that's not part of the art curriculum. And what does that have to do with cleaning up after class, working quietly, and raising hands? Those nonachievement factors you mentioned as being somehow a part of an art CURRICULUM? You wrote: "Oh, that's right, you don't make your students clean up after class. Or work quietly. Raise hands to ask questions. No, no social skills." /quote An art curriculum doesn't cover those factors nor does it cover what I'd characterize as social skills. > Or perhaps you could be teaching ethics when you tell students > they can't turn it another student's work as their own? Apple. > Nope, not No, it's not. You are correct. However, should I deduct for spelling? ;o) (That's no me being clever as much as it is you making a typo, btw.) > art at all. Orange. Telling a student not to plagiarize is not the same as teaching them about linear perspective. Apples and oranges, Kavvy. Do I expect students to do their own work? Typically, but that's not a component of the art curriculum. When's the last time you were in an art class as a student or as a teacher? There are numerous times when I'll see a student working with another student on an art assignment. One child feels more confident drawing faces while another can draw awesome cars. They team up to complete the art activity. Is that against your apparent ethics? Would you mark that behavior as being contrary to your imaginary art curriculum? Or have you, as part of the play you're (I'm assuming here) continuing your work toward completing, actually created an art curriculum of your own? One, I'm certain, that has cleaning up after rehearsal, working quietly, and raising hands to ask questions as critical components. Hmm? > No Curt, Yes, Kavin? You have something to add? > the art curriculum is not just crayons and paper. This much you have correct. > Students don't just learn pretty colors when they use crayons. Oh, I must have missed the part where I offered up that opinion. Cite, please? > They might also learn a bit of physics. I wouldn't be surprised. Took a class as an undergrad, the Chemistry of Color was the course's name, iirc. > When a social studies teacher discusses how bronze caused a change in > society, can't you see how chemistry is touched? Your point? > Probably not. It's more important for Curt to try to appear clever. And it seems, unfortunately, that you have more interest in being argumentative than having a discussion. I'm guessing THAT's your point. Enjoy. > And I'd suggest you re-read the standards. http://www.pde.state.pa.us/stateboar...ed/pdfarts.pdf Ha! There's a cool URL. It has farts and skateboards! What more could you want? Read and enjoy, Kavin. Maybe that's one thing our exchanges are good for, eh? We both sit and think a bit. Oh, wait, I don't think. I just pop off whatever's in my head, right? > It does suggest a bit more than you seem to believe. I believe it's time for breakfast. And I believe you can believe whatever you'd like, but that won't necessarily make it the truth. Hth. -- Curt |