De-lurking, briefly

Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rapids@comcast.net> wrote:
WW> I love the text (FAQ?) healing instructions that lish posted in early
WW> June. Absolutely love. It's in my favorites, and if anybody I know gets

good.

but i posted that years ago. it's not new, nor should it be.

lish "i really do have a-"
crank@got.net "HONK HONK NOT GIVING A SHIT" -tf
43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70

i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rapids@comcast.net> wrote:
> WW> I love the text (FAQ?) healing instructions that lish posted in early
> WW> June. Absolutely love. It's in my favorites, and if anybody I know gets
>
> good.
>
> but i posted that years ago. it's not new, nor should it be.
>
> lish "i really do have a-"
> crank@got.net "HONK HONK NOT GIVING A SHIT" -tf
> 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70
>

It can't be new, as what you wrote was the procedure (by and large) that
I used to heal my first tat, but I don't recall saying it was new, only
that I appreciate the information, which I do.

Whitewater

Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rapids@comcast.net> wrote:
WW> i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>> WW> I love the text (FAQ?) healing instructions that lish posted in early
>> WW> June. Absolutely love. It's in my favorites, and if anybody I know gets
>> but i posted that years ago. it's not new, nor should it be.
WW> It can't be new, as what you wrote was the procedure (by and large) that
WW> I used to heal my first tat, but I don't recall saying it was new, only
WW> that I appreciate the information, which I do.

"that lish posted in early June" implies i just wrote it.

this thread is now ridiculous.

"whitewater" is an interesting name.

lish "how sad it is for other people
crank@got.net that they cannot appreciate our genius." -hc
43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70

On Aug 22, 7:25 pm, cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.)
wrote:
[...]

> "that lish posted in early June" implies i just wrote it.

Or that the OP saw you post a link in early June.

> this thread is now ridiculous.
>
> "whitewater" is an interesting name.

What would Hillary Clinton choose for a tattoo?

--
Curt

On Aug 22, 1:03 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Aug 22, 11:23 am, Curt <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> C> But you're not saying that there are no major league tattoo artists
> C> who use terms such as tat and gauge contrary to what you may
> believe
> C> is the correct manner, are you?
>
> No.

Cool. Because I would hope she wouldn't say something like that.
Because, hey, it's not true.

[...]

> Curt replies: "Are you answering for Nina now?"
>
> Kavin replies: "Let's see if Nina corrects me."

Imaginary text games!

Kavin replies: "I'm a little teapot short and stout! Here is myOUCH
SON OF A... would you watch it with those volleyballs???!!!"

Your turn, Kavvy.

--
Curt

Curt wrote:
> Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rap...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>One of them I had to get re-pierced after a choreographed fight
>
>
> I'd be interested to learn more about that.
>
>
> Curt
>

Which? The choreographed fight or the re-piercing?

Whitewater

On Aug 23, 12:10 am, Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rap...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> Curt wrote:
> > Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rap...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>One of them I had to get re-pierced after a choreographed fight
>
> > I'd be interested to learn more about that.
>
> Which? The choreographed fight or the re-piercing?

The choreographed fight.

--
Curt

Curt wrote:
> On Aug 23, 12:10 am, Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rap...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Curt wrote:
>>
>>>Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rap...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>One of them I had to get re-pierced after a choreographed fight
>>
>>>I'd be interested to learn more about that.
>>
>>Which? The choreographed fight or the re-piercing?
>
>
> The choreographed fight.
>
> --
> Curt
>

Well, all the sword fighting and hand-to-hand combat you see in the
movies is choreographed, kind of like a dance. The moves are generally
taken from real life, and are modified a little so that you don't
actually break bones or do significant damage. The moves, however, are
not fake. If you're not careful, and if you don't follow the rules or
learn the techniques poorly, you *can* injure or kill people -- or
yourself. This is not a martial art for idiots. A lot of stuntmen learn
this art as well as how to fall off buildings and whatnot and it's not
unheard of for stunt folks to be killed or injured doing stunts! The art
is called stage combat, and it's a 'soft' martial art, meaning that the
most you can expect to be hurt is scrapes, bruises and aching muscles.
Additionally, stage combat is 'soft' because you are working with your
partner, the energy is flowing between both of you. 'Hard' martial arts
seek to actually cause harm (kickboxing, muy tai, etc) and often the
energy is dominating and oppositional instead of free flowing.

Anyhow, I digress. You can learn about the kind of stage combat I do/did
by looking up the Society of American Fight Directors (last I heard, the
website was www.safd.org but things might have changed), you'll get all
kinds of information there.

The fight I was in was part of a certification program (which now has
been totally re-formatted) so that if I wanted to fight onstage
somewhere, the people hiring me would know that I met or exceeded the
basic safety and artistic requirements of the SAFD. I got a little piece
of paper to hang on my wall and everything.

Luckily the accident happened during a training session and not during
the test itself!

My partner was suppose to grab my head by my hair and slam my head into
his knee. Quite obviously I wasn't actually going to be hurt, that's
just what it was supposed to look like. In that particular combination
of moves, my partner was supposed to grab my hair, and I was supposed to
do the rest of the work. Unfortunately, while he was performing the
hair-grab technique, my partner miscalculated and grabbed my ear
instead. He didn't realize it and performed the technique, which caused
pressure and whatnot on my earring. Luckily my earring gave before my
ear did! Once he realized what happened he let go, but it was too late.
My earring had gotten wrenched in two, and had fallen with some force
out of my ear, creating a small gash in my ear from the point of the
piercing up into my cartilage.

There wasn't a whole lot of blood, just a bit here and there. I found my
earring (it had gotten flung the length of the room), cleaned up the
wound, put an ice pack on for a little bit, and then went back to work.

I used to have all kinds of little scars here and there from my stage
combat days, but by and large they have all healed and gone away by now.
Particularly if you're working with knives or swords, you can't help
getting nicked every now and again. It come with the territory.

I did learn, however, why you're not really supposed to wear jewelry
while you're fighting!


Whitewater

On Aug 23, 3:10 pm, Wolf Whitewater <white_water_rap...@comcast.net>
wrote:
[...]

> Well, all the sword fighting and hand-to-hand combat you see in the
> movies is choreographed, kind of like a dance. The moves are generally
> taken from real life, and are modified a little so that you don't
> actually break bones or do significant damage. The moves, however, are
> not fake. If you're not careful, and if you don't follow the rules or
> learn the techniques poorly, you *can* injure or kill people -- or

Brandon Lee as an example? I guess that was more the prop master's
fault than something Lee or his co-worker did wrong.

> yourself. This is not a martial art for idiots. A lot of stuntmen learn
> this art as well as how to fall off buildings and whatnot and it's not
> unheard of for stunt folks to be killed or injured doing stunts! The art
> is called stage combat, and it's a 'soft' martial art, meaning that the
> most you can expect to be hurt is scrapes, bruises and aching muscles.
> Additionally, stage combat is 'soft' because you are working with your
> partner, the energy is flowing between both of you.

Professional wrestling!

> 'Hard' martial arts seek to actually cause harm (kickboxing, muy tai,
> etc) and often the energy is dominating and oppositional instead of
> free flowing.
>
> Anyhow, I digress. You can learn about the kind of stage combat I do/did
> by looking up the Society of American Fight Directors (last I heard, the
> website was www.safd.org but things might have changed), you'll get all
> kinds of information there.

Still there.

> The fight I was in was part of a certification program (which now has
> been totally re-formatted) so that if I wanted to fight onstage
> somewhere, the people hiring me would know that I met or exceeded the
> basic safety and artistic requirements of the SAFD. I got a little piece
> of paper to hang on my wall and everything.

heh :o)

Gotta love degrees, certificates, letters of participation, etc. Those
little pieces of paper can actually mean a lot.

> Luckily the accident happened during a training session and not during
> the test itself!
>
> My partner was suppose to grab my head by my hair and slam my head into
> his knee. Quite obviously I wasn't actually going to be hurt, that's
> just what it was supposed to look like. In that particular combination
> of moves, my partner was supposed to grab my hair, and I was supposed to
> do the rest of the work. Unfortunately, while he was performing the
> hair-grab technique, my partner miscalculated and grabbed my ear
> instead. He didn't realize it and performed the technique, which caused
> pressure and whatnot on my earring. Luckily my earring gave before my
> ear did! Once he realized what happened he let go, but it was too late.
> My earring had gotten wrenched in two, and had fallen with some force
> out of my ear, creating a small gash in my ear from the point of the
> piercing up into my cartilage.
>
> There wasn't a whole lot of blood, just a bit here and there. I found my
> earring (it had gotten flung the length of the room), cleaned up the
> wound, put an ice pack on for a little bit, and then went back to work.
>
> I used to have all kinds of little scars here and there from my stage
> combat days, but by and large they have all healed and gone away by now.
> Particularly if you're working with knives or swords, you can't help
> getting nicked every now and again. It come with the territory.
>
> I did learn, however, why you're not really supposed to wear jewelry
> while you're fighting!
>
> Whitewater

Fascinating. I love DVDs for their special features as much as for the
movie. Jackie Chan typically includes a big section on his
choreography. Thanks for the post.

--
Curt