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Taken from Shannon's page on IAM:
2007/09/27 04:56 Over the last month or two Rachel and Jon have taken control of key aspects of BME without my consent in what seems to be a hostile takeover attempt. Last night false charges were filed against me and I just got out of prison, upon which I discovered that I had been locked out of administrative sections of all the servers as well as being totally locked out of BME. I don't know how long this account will remain before it is deleted or locked out as well, because attempts were made to lock me out of IAM also. I do not have control over zentastic.com or any of my other servers either so I am unable to fully post this update. Please pass it on because it may be deleted. I can be reached at snowrail@gmail.com. If my access here is cut off or they deactivate the site I will post updates to bodytwo.com and elsewhere. I hope that a reasonable resolution to this can be found, but never in my life have I felt so betrayed or had such underhanded, despicable, and deceptive attacks launched at me. If a claim is made that this situation has been resolved and it is not co-posted to at least bodytwo.com, do not assume it is me making the post. |
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Ken Karnage wrote:
> > Taken from Shannon's page on IAM: > > 2007/09/27 04:56 Over the last month or two Rachel and Jon have > taken control of key aspects of BME without my consent in what > seems to be a hostile takeover attempt. Last night false charges > were filed against me and I just got out of prison, > Cripes... What fresh hell is this? Not that I've been deep involved in BME, but I thought Shannon *was* BME. -- Willyboy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill is a charter member of the Peter Pan Club. Ask him about it. |
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Ken Karnage <KenKarnage@gmail.com> wrote:
KK> Taken from Shannon's page on IAM: KK> 2007/09/27 04:56 Over the last month or two Rachel and Jon have taken KK> control of key aspects of BME without my consent in what seems to be a KK> hostile takeover attempt. Last night false charges were filed against i'm surprised that shannon would give them permissons where they could do that. with all the custom coding & security on the site, i'd think he'd specify that they could do anything BUT change HIS permissions. it's not april yet. this is bizarre. lish "well i, i might be wrong, crank@got.net but you, you tag along." -mm 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70 |
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i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> Ken Karnage <KenKarnage@gmail.com> wrote: > KK> Taken from Shannon's page on IAM: > KK> 2007/09/27 04:56 Over the last month or two Rachel and Jon have taken > KK> control of key aspects of BME without my consent in what seems to be a > KK> hostile takeover attempt. Last night false charges were filed against > > i'm surprised that shannon would give them permissons where they > could do that. with all the custom coding & security on the site, i'd > think he'd specify that they could do anything BUT change HIS permissions. > > it's not april yet. this is bizarre. > > lish "well i, i might be wrong, > crank@got.net but you, you tag along." -mm > 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70 > It sounds to me this was done to him without his consent. It is eerily familiar to what is being done to me. I feel sorry for Shannon. He is a very good person, with a beautiful soul and a very loving heart. He does not deserve this. He is being wrongfully persecuted. I don't want to be in BME without him, its meaningless without him. I am shocked this is happening to him. Shannon has been through so much already personally and in his family. He doesn't need any more pain in his life. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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i'll teach you to turn away. <crank@got.net> wrote:
> i'm surprised that shannon would give them permissons where they > could do that. with all the custom coding & security on the site, i'd > think he'd specify that they could do anything BUT change HIS permissions. I would hope that this won't be deleted, but I'm quoting the whole thing just in case: "Shannon is not locked out of Modblog or IAM. It is the other way around. He has suspended both my page and Jon, our sysadmin. There are two things that he does, updating modblog (after Phil sends him images to post) and updating his personal blog. He lied/exaggerated about being "sent to prison" as he spent a few hours in a police station just blocks from the house. I am not the "ex" wife. I am still his wife. Shannon and I are married, have not even legally separated even though I left him in the beginning of 2006. I own 100% of BME and have been running the behind the scenes for almost 7 years. I do not enjoy the limelight so I stay out of it. I run the business as has been public knowledge until Shannon's removal of links to me and references. Shannon is the "face" of BME. A public persona that you are all exposed to. If you don't know who I am or who Jon is, that is because you haven't been around or very long. Without Jon, IAM would have died last week and nothing would have been done to save it. He didn't even get a thank you. When a server went down, *I* was the one on the first flight out to rebuild it. Learn your BME history. I am not going to release the details of why Shannon was arrested. He has conveniently posted here, then said if the post was removed that it wasn't him unless it was cross posted to bodytwo.com. It hasn't been posted so it's a very easy way to cause more drama. Just like he said he didn't TOS my page. Feel free to continue to cast judgment based on a vague post that conflicts itself. Those of you calling me "greedy" and making stupid assumptions about BME/IAM going offline have no idea what you are talking about. You will feel very foolish when this is all resolved and it is made very clear what the FACTS are. Rachel on September 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pm" http://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/09/2...comment-416924 |
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Fwiw, Rachel's the one who set up my IAM account as I had no success
in getting things to work way back when. She even gave me the IAM name Curt when, iirc, the minimum character count for an IAM names was six at the time. re Shannon Hey, relationships can make men insane. Btdt. Best wishes for all concerned. On Sep 27, 4:04 pm, dhrr...@ohatzhapu.bet (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote: > i'll teach you to turn away. <cr...@got.net> wrote: > > > i'm surprised that shannon would give them permissons where they > > could do that. with all the custom coding & security on the site, i'd > > think he'd specify that they could do anything BUT change HIS permissions. > > I would hope that this won't be deleted, but I'm quoting the whole thing > just in case: > > "Shannon is not locked out of Modblog or IAM. It is the other way > around. He has suspended both my page and Jon, our sysadmin. There are > two things that he does, updating modblog (after Phil sends him images > to post) and updating his personal blog. > > He lied/exaggerated about being "sent to prison" as he spent a few hours > in a police station just blocks from the house. I am not the "ex" wife. > I am still his wife. Shannon and I are married, have not even legally > separated even though I left him in the beginning of 2006. > > I own 100% of BME and have been running the behind the scenes for almost > 7 years. I do not enjoy the limelight so I stay out of it. I run the > business as has been public knowledge until Shannon's removal of links > to me and references. Shannon is the "face" of BME. A public persona > that you are all exposed to. If you don't know who I am or who Jon is, > that is because you haven't been around or very long. Without Jon, IAM > would have died last week and nothing would have been done to save it. > He didn't even get a thank you. When a server went down, *I* was the one > on the first flight out to rebuild it. Learn your BME history. > > I am not going to release the details of why Shannon was arrested. He > has conveniently posted here, then said if the post was removed that it > wasn't him unless it was cross posted to bodytwo.com. It hasn't been > posted so it's a very easy way to cause more drama. Just like he said he > didn't TOS my page. > > Feel free to continue to cast judgment based on a vague post that > conflicts itself. Those of you calling me "greedy" and making stupid > assumptions about BME/IAM going offline have no idea what you are > talking about. You will feel very foolish when this is all resolved and > it is made very clear what the FACTS are. > > Rachel on September 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pm" > > http://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/09/2...comment-416924 -- Curt |
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The Queen of Cans and Jars <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote:
TQ> I would hope that this won't be deleted, but I'm quoting the whole thing TQ> just in case: yep, i don't see that post; glad you copied. furthermore, i came home & found my rss feed had picked up another deleted post: [-----] From bozo@dev.null.invalid Thu Sep 27 16:00:31 2007 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:00:31 -0000 From: ModBlog <bozo@dev.null.invalid> To: crank@got.net Subject: This is Jon posting as Shannon As you can see, Shannon has not changed his password. For someone who fears being locked out you'd think the first thing any knowledgable computer person would do is change their password. He left his password the same because he wanted me to delete his post, because that would have only "proved" his continuing lies. The betrayal post was deleted by him after a close friend called him out on using all of you to do his dirty work by slandering us. Believe it or not, I personally do not care, and to be very clear Im not here to slander anyone, Im posting to defend myself. I had the courage to do what needed to be done in a very hard time, and all of you are slandering me based on another persons word. Unless you know Shannon personally, your opinion of him or who controls BME is irrelevant. If you were not here last night talking to the police, or at the police station. I had to go because of shannons outlandish statements about me to the police, and I didn't even witness what happened. I have known him for at least 5 years and have LIVED IN THE SAME HOUSE with him the entire time. I removed his access to business essential systems after I received a call from Rachel saying she had just been assaulted, it was clear that he was being very irrational and was acting out of control. If you run a "family" business you may understand my reasons for doing so. I have been the sole sysadmin for BME for over 3 years, I am responsible for all of our machines and services 24/7/365 and I take that responsibility very seriously. IAM members, feel free to search his page for my name and see all that I have done for BME in the past, it certainly seems like most of you require a history lesson. I have saved BME countless times, and I have improved the overall quality of service 100 fold, and this is the thanks I get. From Shannons page: [http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...00602 242123][1] 2006/02/24 21:23 Sorry for all the trouble. I assure you "it hurts me more than it hurts you" ?~@~T not that such a statement is relevant or consolation in the least! Anyway, big thanks to Jon for temporarily donating his server (so his own site is currently offline) in order to keep BME online. We've tested the existing account, additions of new accounts, as well as the interface to IAM (and I've cleared up space for new accounts here also). That said, there may still be problems, so please tell one of us the details if you believe you found one. http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200601 280334 http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200604 111511 http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200604 121921 http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200604 141955 http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200605 010357 Theres plenty more [search for yourself][2] If you are my friend, if you know me personally, you know what type of person I am. Defend me if you wish, I wont hold it against you if you dont. [1]: http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200602 242123 [2]: http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe URL: http://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/09/2...ng-as-shannon/ [-----] what the fuck is going on? shannon's iam page appears to be TOS'd; zentastic is nothing new; bodytwo.com is prattling on about being the only secure site for shannon to use. someone needs to be honest & open. lish "you bit off more than you could chew crank@got.net the first day you met me." -dm 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70 |
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On Sep 27, 10:58 pm, cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.)
wrote: [...] re someone else's drama > someone needs to be honest & open. Rachel said we'd see after it all shakes out. Patience. Again, best wishes to all involved. -- Curt |
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I'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> The Queen of Cans and Jars <dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: > TQ> I would hope that this won't be deleted, but I'm quoting the whole thing > TQ> just in case: > > yep, i don't see that post; glad you copied. furthermore, i came > home & found my rss feed had picked up another deleted post: > > [-----] > > From bozo@dev.null.invalid Thu Sep 27 16:00:31 2007 > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:00:31 -0000 > From: ModBlog <bozo@dev.null.invalid> > To: crank@got.net > Subject: This is Jon posting as Shannon > > As you can see, Shannon has not changed his password. For someone who > fears being locked out you'd think the first thing any knowledgable > computer person would do is change their password. He left his password > the same because he wanted me to delete his post, because that would have > only "proved" his continuing lies. > > The betrayal post was deleted by him after a close friend called him out > on using all of you to do his dirty work by slandering us. Believe it or > not, I personally do not care, and to be very clear Im not here to slander > anyone, Im posting to defend myself. > > I had the courage to do what needed to be done in a very hard time, and > all of you are slandering me based on another persons word. > > Unless you know Shannon personally, your opinion of him or who controls > BME is irrelevant. If you were not here last night talking to the police, > or at the police station. I had to go because of shannons outlandish > statements about me to the police, and I didn't even witness what > happened. I have known him for at least 5 years and have LIVED IN THE SAME > HOUSE with him the entire time. > > I removed his access to business essential systems after I received a call > from Rachel saying she had just been assaulted, it was clear that he was > being very irrational and was acting out of control. If you run a "family" > business you may understand my reasons for doing so. > > I have been the sole sysadmin for BME for over 3 years, I am responsible > for all of our machines and services 24/7/365 and I take that > responsibility very seriously. > > IAM members, feel free to search his page for my name and see all that I > have done for BME in the past, it certainly seems like most of you require > a history lesson. I have saved BME countless times, and I have improved > the overall quality of service 100 fold, and this is the thanks I get. > > From Shannons page: [http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...00602 242123][1] > > 2006/02/24 21:23 Sorry for all the trouble. I assure you "it hurts me more > than it hurts you" ?~@~T not that such a statement is relevant or > consolation in the least! > > Anyway, big thanks to Jon for temporarily donating his server (so his own > site is currently offline) in order to keep BME online. We've tested the > existing account, additions of new accounts, as well as the interface to > IAM (and I've cleared up space for new accounts here also). That said, > there may still be problems, so please tell one of us the details if you > believe you found one. > > http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200601 280334 > http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200604 111511 > http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200604 121921 > http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200604 141955 > http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200605 010357 > > Theres plenty more [search for yourself][2] > > If you are my friend, if you know me personally, you know what type of > person I am. Defend me if you wish, I wont hold it against you if you > dont. > > [1]: http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...200602 242123 > [2]: http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe > > URL: http://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/09/2...ng-as-shannon/ > > [-----] > > what the fuck is going on? shannon's iam page appears to be TOS'd; > zentastic is nothing new; bodytwo.com is prattling on about being the only > secure site for shannon to use. someone needs to be honest & open. > > lish "you bit off more than you could chew > crank@got.net the first day you met me." -dm > 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70 > This post to modblog has been deleted by now, but I was able to catch it soon after it was posted while keeping tabs on events via my cell phone. While I don't know every event, I do remember several events when Jon and/or Rachel where the ones that kept both sites running, or got them back up after a failure. I also know from many posts over the years that Rachel is right when she says she's the one that's been running everything behind the scenes for so long. I'd like to think I'm a vary rational person. So I'm doing some rational things and hoping everyone else does the same: A) know that IAM/BME are safe and will continue to operate uninterrupted. B)No one but the participants know what really happened, nor is it any of our business. This whole thing should have been kept between the two/three of them. |
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On Sep 28, 7:24 am, Patrick <drgns...@teambme.com> wrote:
> I'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > > > > > The Queen of Cans and Jars <dhrr...@ohatzhapu.bet> wrote: > > TQ> I would hope that this won't be deleted, but I'm quoting the whole thing > > TQ> just in case: > > > yep, i don't see that post; glad you copied. furthermore, i came > > home & found my rss feed had picked up another deleted post: > > > [-----] > > > From b...@dev.null.invalid Thu Sep 27 16:00:31 2007 > > Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:00:31 -0000 > > From: ModBlog <b...@dev.null.invalid> > > To: cr...@got.net > > Subject: This is Jon posting as Shannon > > > As you can see, Shannon has not changed his password. For someone who > > fears being locked out you'd think the first thing any knowledgable > > computer person would do is change their password. He left his password > > the same because he wanted me to delete his post, because that would have > > only "proved" his continuing lies. > > > The betrayal post was deleted by him after a close friend called him out > > on using all of you to do his dirty work by slandering us. Believe it or > > not, I personally do not care, and to be very clear Im not here to slander > > anyone, Im posting to defend myself. > > > I had the courage to do what needed to be done in a very hard time, and > > all of you are slandering me based on another persons word. > > > Unless you know Shannon personally, your opinion of him or who controls > > BME is irrelevant. If you were not here last night talking to the police, > > or at the police station. I had to go because of shannons outlandish > > statements about me to the police, and I didn't even witness what > > happened. I have known him for at least 5 years and have LIVED IN THE SAME > > HOUSE with him the entire time. > > > I removed his access to business essential systems after I received a call > > from Rachel saying she had just been assaulted, it was clear that he was > > being very irrational and was acting out of control. If you run a "family" > > business you may understand my reasons for doing so. > > > I have been the sole sysadmin for BME for over 3 years, I am responsible > > for all of our machines and services 24/7/365 and I take that > > responsibility very seriously. > > > IAM members, feel free to search his page for my name and see all that I > > have done for BME in the past, it certainly seems like most of you require > > a history lesson. I have saved BME countless times, and I have improved > > the overall quality of service 100 fold, and this is the thanks I get. > > > From Shannons page: [http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...tematch=20...][1] > > > 2006/02/24 21:23 Sorry for all the trouble. I assure you "it hurts me more > > than it hurts you" ?~@~T not that such a statement is relevant or > > consolation in the least! > > > Anyway, big thanks to Jon for temporarily donating his server (so his own > > site is currently offline) in order to keep BME online. We've tested the > > existing account, additions of new accounts, as well as the interface to > > IAM (and I've cleared up space for new accounts here also). That said, > > there may still be problems, so please tell one of us the details if you > > believe you found one. > > >http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...r&datematch=20... > >http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...r&datematch=20... > >http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...r&datematch=20... > >http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...r&datematch=20... > >http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...r&datematch=20... > > > Theres plenty more [search for yourself][2] > > > If you are my friend, if you know me personally, you know what type of > > person I am. Defend me if you wish, I wont hold it against you if you > > dont. > > > [1]:http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe?cmd=...r&datematch=20... > > [2]:http://iam.bmezine.com/iams.exe > > > URL:http://modblog.bmezine.com/2007/09/2...ng-as-shannon/ > > > [-----] > > > what the fuck is going on? shannon's iam page appears to be TOS'd; > > zentastic is nothing new; bodytwo.com is prattling on about being the only > > secure site for shannon to use. someone needs to be honest & open. > > > lish "you bit off more than you could chew > > cr...@got.net the first day you met me." -dm > > 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70 > > This post to modblog has been deleted by now, but I was able to catch it > soon after it was posted while keeping tabs on events via my cell phone. > > While I don't know every event, I do remember several events when Jon > and/or Rachel where the ones that kept both sites running, or got them > back up after a failure. I also know from many posts over the years > that Rachel is right when she says she's the one that's been running > everything behind the scenes for so long. > > I'd like to think I'm a vary rational person. So I'm doing some > rational things and hoping everyone else does the same: > A) know that IAM/BME are safe and will continue to operate uninterrupted. > B)No one but the participants know what really happened, nor is it any > of our business. This whole thing should have been kept between the > two/three of them. You are right. The entire thing should have been kept private. It has nothing to do with BME at all but now Shannon has brought it on to BME. He TOS'd my page, Jon's page and then his page after deleting his own posts on Modblog. He continually posted about how he couldn't post on any of these sites but for some reason nobody clued in that he was posting the entries on the sites he claimed he couldn't post on! 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Rachel <rachellarratt@gmail.com> wrote:
R> You are right. The entire thing should have been kept private. It has R> nothing to do with BME at all but now Shannon has brought it on to R> I haven't done anything to the sites, it seems that I am getting all R> of the blame though. i'm not assigning blame to anyone, & i'm glad to see you posting here. while i agree it's private & should've been kept private, it wasn't. much like with anyone else in the spotlight, the fans have *some* right to know what's going on; at least, they have a right to know the WHOLE story when only a part is given out. & the whole story means from all parties' sides. any clarification is appreciated, rachel. & i hope this bullshit isn't affecting your kid. lish "& it takes half as much crank@got.net as it used to for me." -mm 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70 |
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On Sep 27, 11:28 am, Ken Karnage <KenKarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Taken from Shannon's page on IAM: > > 2007/09/27 04:56 Over the last month or two Rachel and Jon have taken > control of key aspects of BME without my consent in what seems to be a > hostile takeover attempt. Last night false charges were filed against > me and I just got out of prison, upon which I discovered that I had > been locked out of administrative sections of all the servers as well > as being totally locked out of BME. I don't know how long this account > will remain before it is deleted or locked out as well, because > attempts were made to lock me out of IAM also. I do not have control > over zentastic.com or any of my other servers either so I am unable to > fully post this update. Please pass it on because it may be deleted. <snip> Posted on MySpace on 09/27/07: "BME UPDATE! Please ignore the rumor mills and ridiculous drama that is currently being spread via myspace bulletin. BME and IAM are NOT going offline. There has been no change in ownership and the site has not been sold. Shannon and Rachel Larratt continue to operate the site and no one has been removed from working for the company. Long Live BME!" |
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On Sep 29, 8:02 pm, "Mr. Clean" <derbarb...@gmail.com> wrote:
[...] > Posted on MySpace on 09/27/07: > > "BME UPDATE! > Please ignore the rumor mills and ridiculous drama that is currently > being spread via myspace bulletin. > > BME and IAM are NOT going offline. http://iam.bmezine.com/ Uh... from the link above: "IAM is currently offline." Fyi, Clean. ;o) But, yeah, not foreverever. Unless, of course, "as long as we both desire and I will strive to ensure its healthy future" could be loosely defined as "yeah, but, nothing lasts forever." I wish all concerned the best. They can keep my ten bucks. That said, and all the same, I trust that the following words are gospel: "Your personal content is perfectly safe, and will not be lost. Some user accounts appear to have been deleted but please don't worry as we have a complete back up of the site from Wednesday September 19th, 2007 on a machine that is not affected by this outage. Those of you experiencing difficulty accessing the site will be fully credited for your down time." > There has been no change in ownership and the site has not been > sold. Shannon and Rachel Larratt continue to operate the site and > no one has been removed from working for the company. Okay. > Long Live BME!" Agreed! -- |
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> On Sep 27, 11:28 am, Ken Karnage <KenKarn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Taken from Shannon's page on IAM: >> >> 2007/09/27 04:56 Over the last month or two Rachel and Jon have taken >> control of key aspects of BME without my consent in what seems to be a >> hostile takeover attempt. Last night false charges were filed against >> me and I just got out of prison, upon which I discovered that I had >> been locked out of administrative sections of all the servers as well >> as being totally locked out of BME. I don't know how long this account >> will remain before it is deleted or locked out as well, because >> attempts were made to lock me out of IAM also. I do not have control >> over zentastic.com or any of my other servers either so I am unable to >> fully post this update. Please pass it on because it may be deleted. > <snip> > > Posted on MySpace on 09/27/07: > > "BME UPDATE! > Please ignore the rumor mills and ridiculous drama that is currently > being spread via myspace bulletin. > > BME and IAM are NOT going offline. There has been no change in > ownership and the site has not been > sold. Shannon and Rachel Larratt continue to operate the site and no > one has been removed from > working for the company. > > Long Live BME!" > How much money does the company make? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |