Oldbie

I was talking to a friend about the good old days and RAB was brought
up; I spent a couple of years here back in the 90s and figured I'd
stop by and see if it is up and still going. To those that are still
around hello and to those that don't know me hello.

--
DaVo piercing @ The Axiom
http://axiompeircing.com

davo@axiompiercing.com wrote:
dac> I was talking to a friend about the good old days and RAB was brought
dac> up; I spent a couple of years here back in the 90s and figured I'd
dac> stop by and see if it is up and still going. To those that are still
dac> around hello and to those that don't know me hello.

OH SHIT YOU STILL EXIST

i can't remember if i liked or loathed you. quick, remind me.

lish "& it means half as much
crank@got.net as it used to to me." -mm
43.9% / 32 RANA 128 / 70

On Nov 13, 11:19*pm, cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.)
wrote:
> d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
>
> dac> I was talking to a friend about the good old days and RAB was brought
> dac> up; I spent a couple of years here back in the 90s and figured I'd
> dac> stop by and see if it is up and still going. To those that are still
> dac> around hello and to those that don't know me hello.
>
> * * * * OH SHIT YOU STILL EXIST
>
> * * * * i can't remember if i liked or loathed you. quick, remindme.
>
> lish * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "& it means half as much
> cr...@got.net * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** as it used to to me." -mm
> 43.9% / 32 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *RANA 128 / 70

Yes I still exist.

Don't remember but you are the only person still active that I
remembered. I want to say that you tolerated me. For some reason I
remember us e-mailing back and forth on going to the RABcon when it
was in Omaha. I didn't make it for one reason or another. At any rate,
I remember always respecting you and your posts always being
informative or whitty.

I was really active then there was this big war between the trolls and
the warm fuzzies. I left for a while and came back and it seemed that
the trolls had won out. Even some of the warm fuzzies had turned into
trolls at that point. It was Derik Lowe and the Grishs(not sure on the
spelling and haven't seen them for years) that got me involved. This
would have been around 98 and 99.


DaVo piercing @ the Axiom
http://axiompiercing.com

davo@axiompiercing.com wrote:
dac> On Nov 13, 11:19?pm, cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.)
>> ? ? ? ? i can't remember if i liked or loathed you. quick, remind me.
dac> Don't remember but you are the only person still active that I
dac> remembered. I want to say that you tolerated me. For some reason I
dac> remember us e-mailing back and forth on going to the RABcon when it
dac> was in Omaha. I didn't make it for one reason or another. At any rate,
dac> I remember always respecting you and your posts always being
dac> informative or whitty.

ok, i'd believe i tolerated you. you may stay a while. :D

dac> I was really active then there was this big war between the trolls and
dac> the warm fuzzies. I left for a while and came back and it seemed that
dac> the trolls had won out. Even some of the warm fuzzies had turned into

yep, it's bad these days. i think my primary (potentially sole)
motivation for staying is for when decent previous members drop by. i
still wish keith would, though.

lish "who the hell are you
crank@got.net & why are you talking to me?" -pm
43.9% / 32 RANA 128 / 70

On Nov 15, 4:47*pm, cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.)
wrote:
> d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
>
> dac> On Nov 13, 11:19?pm, cr...@got.net (i'll teach you to turn away.)>> ? ? ? ? i can't remember if i liked or loathed you. quick, remind me.
>
> dac> Don't remember but you are the only person still active that I
> dac> remembered. I want to say that you tolerated me. For some reason I
> dac> remember us e-mailing back and forth on going to the RABcon when it
> dac> was in Omaha. I didn't make it for one reason or another. At any rate,
> dac> I remember always respecting you and your posts always being
> dac> informative or whitty.
>
> * * * * ok, i'd believe i tolerated you. you may stay a while. :D
>
> dac> I was really active then there was this big war between the trolls and
> dac> the warm fuzzies. I left for a while and came back and it seemed that
> dac> the trolls had won out. Even some of the warm fuzzies had turned into
>
> * * * * yep, it's bad these days. i think my primary (potentiallysole)
> motivation for staying is for when decent previous members drop by. i
> still wish keith would, though.
>
> lish * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *"who the hell are you
> cr...@got.net * * * * * * * * * * * * & why are you talking to me?" -pm
> 43.9% / 32 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *RANA 128 / 70

Yeah Kieth and I battled it out here a few times. He could really be
an asshole sometimes but he was a lot of what this group was about. A
kind of glue. I was shocked when I heard what had happened. The world
was a more interesting place with him in it and I don't think he will
be replaced anytime soon.

I'll stick it out and try to swing in from time to time. It's really
shocking there is so little activity. I remember when there was about
50 post an hour. I don't know if it has more to do with the lack of
interest in Newsgroups or everyone ran out of things to talk/fight
about? It seems there is a social network for just about everything
today and sadly it seems like a more of a circle jerk then real
interaction and exchanging of ideas.

--
DaVo piercing @ the Axiom
http://axiompiercing.com

On Nov 16, 2:08*am, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:

>
> Yeah Kieth and I battled it out here a few times.

And if Keith looked at your present website he'd still be giving you
shit.

Kavin
Who is still scratching his head over a 12 gauge scrotum piercing.

On Nov 16, 1:03*pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 16, 2:08*am, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yeah Kieth and I battled it out here a few times.
>
> And if Keith looked at your present website he'd still be giving you
> shit.
>
> Kavin
> Who is still scratching his head over a 12 gauge scrotum piercing.

Yes I'm rebuilding the site right now. It was my first time working
with a CMS site or Drupal. I really haven't done much to it in a
couple of years. There are a number of Navigation problems and I have
to say that I went nuts with the modules and features. One of the main
problems was the category modules that caused all kind of problems.

The rebuild is sitting at http://mirror.axiompiercing.com and should
be mirgrated in a week or so. Then it's off to rebuild the Iowa
underground archives next month.

On Nov 19, 2:30*pm, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
> On Nov 16, 1:03*pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> wrote:

kt> > And if Keith looked at your present website he'd still be giving
you
kt> > shit.
>

davo> Yes I'm rebuilding the site right now.

I think that has always been your excuse. Or you didn't know the
specific code, etc. And that was my point. Keith didn't like the
luke worms (someone please give me the reference). You either are or
you aren't.

I'd hate to hear your excuses as to why a piercing failed.

Kavin

On Nov 21, 11:38*pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 19, 2:30*pm, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
>
> > On Nov 16, 1:03*pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> kt> > And if Keith looked at your present website he'd still be giving
> you
> kt> > shit.
>
>
>
> davo> Yes I'm rebuilding the site right now.
>
> I think that has always been your excuse. *Or you didn't know the
> specific code, etc. *And that was my point. *Keith didn't like the
> luke worms (someone please give me the reference). *You either are or
> you aren't.
>
> I'd hate to hear your excuses as to why a piercing failed.
>
> Kavin

Migrated it to the main directory last night. Still a few links to be
changed due to the url change but for the most part it is done. .

Let's face it nothing was ever good enough for Keith. It was part of
what he was. Always pushing, never satisfied. One of the reasons he
tended to piss people off and came across as a troll but it showed his
passion. The reason I respected him though is he did admit when he was
wrong. Which he did a handful of times.

That said, with axiompiercing.com it was more time then anything. I
built it and then had to start on two other projects that quickly over
took all my time. You can see it as you wish but it's not an excuse,
it was the reality of the situation. Some of us are well balanced and
have a life outside of the internet. We can't be online 24/7 and don't
want to. We have families, friends, and businesses to run.

There is never an exucse why a piercing failed. There is always a
reason and most of the time there is a solution.

Oh and by the way Keith would have given you got on you from not
having the "--" before your signature.

I have to ask, has this group turned into the let's talk about what
Keith thought of you? It at one time was about bodyart.
--
DaVo piercing @ the Axiom
http://axiompiercing.com

On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:25:13 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.bodyart,
davo@axiompiercing.com wrote:

>Oh and by the way Keith would have given you got on you from not
>having the "--" before your signature.

I hope Keith would have given me shit for having "--" before my sig block.
Because it's wrong.
--
This line signals Logical End-Of-Message.
Physical End-Of-Message follows.

On Nov 22, 1:25*pm, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:

> I have to ask, has this group turned into the let's talk about what
> Keith thought of you? It at one time was about bodyart.

I know what Keith thought of me.

You come off as an ignorant redneck.

Kavin

On Nov 22, 9:10*pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 22, 1:25*pm, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
>
> > I have to ask, has this group turned into the let's talk about what
> > Keith thought of you? It at one time was about bodyart.
>
> I know what Keith thought of me.
>
> You come off as an ignorant redneck.
>
> Kavin

Who cares. Really?

Are you baiting me to go into some kind of trollish war about Keith?
What would be the point of that? He's gone, it's sad, it may suck, he
maybe missed but the fact that I come back after, I don't know, 5
years and a majority of the threads seem to revolve around him in some
way, is really sad. I didn't know him beyond what he posted here. I
have to say that he was very helpful at times, usually in e-mails but
I really don't think he would want this to go on and on. In fact there
was a vibe at one point that he really just wanted RAB to die and he
was doing everything he could to make that happen. I always felt that
a lot of it was tongue to cheek. A way to entertain himself between
piercing. I will never know nor do I really care.

When I first came to RAB 10 years ago Keith was only a part of what
made the group special. There was a number of people that posted as
often and if not more and were really more interesting. Keith usually
would post one line replies to just about every post on here. Others
would take the time to answer questions, give their opinions and
support. Maybe body art has become so mainstream that many of us have
forgotten the days when only a handful of us knew others in our area
that shared the interest. A time where information could only be found
on the net and small publications like PFQI. To me that was the heart
of RAB. It's been lost and may never come back. There are a lot of
reasons for this and maybe it wasn't really that cool even back then.

If this makes me come off as an igonrant redneck, then I'm happy to
play the role.
--
DaVo piercing @ the Axiom
http://axiompiercing.com

On Nov 22, 7:21*pm, nob...@xmission.com (Scott) wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:25:13 -0800 (PST), in rec.arts.bodyart,
>
> d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
> >Oh and by the way Keith would have given you got on you from not
> >having the "--" before your signature.
>
> I hope Keith would have given me shit for having "--" before my sig block..
> Because it's wrong.
> --
> This line signals Logical End-Of-Message.
> Physical End-Of-Message follows.

The fact is that he did the first time I posted on RAB.

--
DaVo piercing @ the Axiom
http://axoimpiercing.com

On Nov 23, 4:12*am, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:

> DaVo piercing @ the Axiom

http://axoimpiercing.com

Really?

Continue to prove my point.

Kavin

On Nov 23, 3:51*pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 4:12*am, d...@axiompiercing.com wrote:
>
> > DaVo piercing @ the Axiom
>
> http://axoimpiercing.com
>
> Really?
>
> Continue to prove my point.
>
> Kavin

What post would this be?

--
DaVo piercing @ the Axiom
http://axiompiercing.com