What does your Body Art mean to you?

I'm currently enrolled in a Philosophy class and we're looking at
different aspects of body modification. Here's a survey that was made
and I would greatly appreciate it if you took the time to complete the
survey. Thanks!!
1) Reflect on the Meaning of your Tattoo / Piercing:
To what extent does your tattoo, or piercing, or any other body mod
define who youare? What does it say about you? Has the meaning of this
mark changed, or remained the same?

2) Thoughts on Other People's Reactions:
Do you like it when people ask you why you got your tattoo / body
mod??Why or why not??

3) The Issue of Permanence:
If your body mod is permanent: How do you feel about the permanence of
it? Does that scare you at all? Is that part of why you got it? What if
you regret it later on? Other thoughts about the permanence?

4) Community:
Does your tattoo / piercing / body mod make you feel connected to other
people who have done the same thing, or not? In what sense?

jwirkler@du.edu wrote:
> I'm currently enrolled in a Philosophy class and we're looking at
> different aspects of body modification. Here's a survey that was made
> and I would greatly appreciate it if you took the time to complete the
> survey. Thanks!!

First, drop out of this class.

Second, ignore anything and everything Curt James has to say.

Actually, first ignore Curt, then drop the class.

Third, don't ever come back, you shit.


Kavin

If you have a tattoo I would really appreciate knowing more about it,
about why you got it, about what the tattoo depicts, whatever you want
to tell me.. Also, I would like to say that I have a tattoo myself and
I'm not just one of those people interested for the sake of examining
those "tattooed people." I can find this information very intersting
and would like to know more not even for the sake of the class.

On Nov 15, 9:18 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> jwirk...@du.edu wrote:
> > I'm currently enrolled in a Philosophy class and we're looking at
> > different aspects of body modification. Here's a survey that was made
> > and I would greatly appreciate it if you took the time to complete the
> > survey. Thanks!!First, drop out of this class.
>
> Second, ignore anything and everything Curt James has to say.
>
> Actually, first ignore Curt, then drop the class.
>
> Third, don't ever come back, you shit.
>
> Kavin

jwirkler@du.edu wrote:
>I can find this information very intersting
> and would like to know more not even for the sake of the class.

Great, but that isn't how you came here.

Just so you will understand, I'll explain how you come across:

"Hi. You don't know me. I've told you nothing about myself. However,
please tell me personal details about yourself. I'm telling you it is
for a class, but it really could be just something I want to know. I
might come back in a while and make fun of you. I might masturbate
over the replies. Blindly trust me."

Get the picture?

You aren't the first.
Sadly, you won't be the last.

And more sad, Curt will defend you.


Kavin

My task in the class was to interview someone on the street and I did
so... Now I find myself here talking to someone who in the eyes of a
moral objectivist is completely insane. I don't want to know your
D.O.B., SSN, or anything about yourself beyond your tattoos. I do
understand that sometimes tattoos go deeper than one can imagine.
Whether I'm from a class or not makes no difference... I'm not
perverted and could not possibly find pleasure from a tattoo story. If
your unwilling to answer my other questions than all I want to know is
your reasoning to get a tattoo or tattoos. Everyone has different
reasons and if its too sensitive than I will respect that and not ask
you again, however I would appreciate if you helped me out, and
hopefully someday someone will return the favor to you..

On Nov 15, 10:10 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> jwirk...@du.edu wrote:
> >I can find this information very intersting
> > and would like to know more not even for the sake of the class.Great, but that isn't how you came here.
>
> Just so you will understand, I'll explain how you come across:
>
> "Hi. You don't know me. I've told you nothing about myself. However,
> please tell me personal details about yourself. I'm telling you it is
> for a class, but it really could be just something I want to know. I
> might come back in a while and make fun of you. I might masturbate
> over the replies. Blindly trust me."
>
> Get the picture?
>
> You aren't the first.
> Sadly, you won't be the last.
>
> And more sad, Curt will defend you.
>
> Kavin

jwirkler@du.edu wrote:
>
> If you have a tattoo I would really appreciate knowing more about it,
> about why you got it, about what the tattoo depicts, whatever you want
> to tell me.. Also, I would like to say that I have a tattoo myself and
> I'm not just one of those people interested for the sake of examining
> those "tattooed people." I can find this information very intersting
> and would like to know more not even for the sake of the class.
>

I have a shitload of tattoos, and I know a shitload of people with
a shitload of tattoos, and I can tell you this about all of them:

Everyone has a different story about why they got them, what they
mean, etc.

But really, all you need to know is this:

We all got tattooed because we wanted to, and thats it. End of
story. Theres nothing complicated about it, theres nothing interesting
about it, theres nothing to be learned about it, and theres
nothing to be researched that hasnt already been researched to
goddamn death and back. Bleh.




-----yttrx



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jwirkler@du.edu wrote:
> My task in the class was to interview someone on the street and I did
> so... Now I find myself here talking to someone who in the eyes of a
> moral objectivist

Ah, youve not reached the age where you realize that theres no such
thing as moral objectivism yet, have you?

> is completely insane. I don't want to know your
> D.O.B., SSN, or anything about yourself beyond your tattoos. I do
> understand that sometimes tattoos go deeper than one can imagine.
> Whether I'm from a class or not makes no difference... I'm not
> perverted and could not possibly find pleasure from a tattoo story. If
> your unwilling to answer my other questions than all I want to know is
> your reasoning to get a tattoo or tattoos. Everyone has different
> reasons and if its too sensitive than I will respect that and not ask
> you again, however I would appreciate if you helped me out, and
> hopefully someday someone will return the favor to you..
>

Youre walking into OUR house and asking PERSONAL questions, and
getting all pissy when someone gets offended by them.

Heres some friendly advice:

GO FUCKING ASK SOMEWHERE ELSE IF YOURE NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS YOU
WANT HERE, DICKHEAD.

And heres some free advice:

Get an iam account: iam.bmezine.com

Those jerkoffs will happily masturbate with you.




-----yttrx



--
http://www.yttrx.net

Kavin Taylor wrote:
[...]

> Second, ignore anything and everything Curt
> James has to say.
>
> Actually, first ignore Curt, then drop the class.

ahahahAHHA! Hey, I guess it IS all about me. ;o)

I suggest you look inside yourself, Kav, and spend less time on me.

Hth.

> Third, don't ever come back, you shit.

And to the OP: I'll play.

Best of luck with your class.

> Kavin

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> jwirkler@du.edu wrote:
[...]

> > like to know more not even for the sake of the class.
>
> Great, but that isn't how you came here.

It has nothing to do with how the OP "came here." It has EVERYTHING to
do with how you responded to their basic questions. If you don't like
the thread then ignore the thread.

> Just so you will understand, I'll explain how you come across:

Oh, boo hoo. That's all your perception. Nothing at all related to the
words the OP posted. Go find something else to complain about. Oh,
wait, there's me and now the OP. Kudos on expanding your horizons.

-=snip the whining/gross misinterpretation=-

> Get the picture?

I believe I do. ;o)

> You aren't the first.
> Sadly, you won't be the last.
>
> And more sad, Curt will defend you.

More than likely.

> Kavin

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Curt James wrote:


> It has nothing to do with how the OP "came here." It has EVERYTHING to
> do with how you responded to their basic questions.

Obviously, you are referring to YOUR response to me.

>If you don't like
> the thread then ignore the thread.

Pot, meet kettle.


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt James wrote:
>
> > It has nothing to do with how the OP "came here."
> > It has EVERYTHING to do with how you responded
> > to their basic questions.
>
> Obviously, you are referring to YOUR response to me.

No. Rather, I commented on your reply to the OP.

> > If you don't like the thread then ignore the thread.
>
> Pot, meet kettle.

Not applicable, Kavin. _I_ do like the thread. ;o)

Hth.

> Kavin

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

jwirkler wrote:

> I'm currently enrolled in a Philosophy class and we're looking at
> different aspects of body modification. Here's a survey that was made
> and I would greatly appreciate it if you took the time to complete the
> survey. Thanks!!
> 1) Reflect on the Meaning of your Tattoo / Piercing:
> To what extent does your tattoo, or piercing, or any other body mod
> define who youare?

So far as appearance goes, my ear piercings or 00 gauge lobes define me
as someone different than the majority of my coworkers as well as
adults in general. Although other teachers have piercings, there aren't
any with stretched lobes. Or at least any that I've met.

Tattoos don't define who I am but rather _re_fine (improve or perfect
by pruning a la the dermal punching) or, alternatively, add to how I
feel about myself by the colorful ink and designs.

> What does it say about you?

Certainly the Calvin <http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/calvin.html>
offers an idea about my sense of humor. My koi is a symbol of strength
and courage, but actually it was just an impulse "Hey, I love that
flash!" moment. And then there's the first-timer tat in my tiny lizard
black work which, to me, reminds me of taking that step of getting some
ink. A good feeling, too.

> Has the meaning of this mark changed, or
> remained the same?

I think a person can overanalyze, but I'd say that the meaning of my
tattoos hasn't changed.

> 2) Thoughts on Other People's Reactions:
> Do you like it when people ask you why you got
> your tattoo / body mod??Why or why not??

Typically, I don't get asked why. I receive compliments. People love
Calvin and Hobbes.

My lizard is on my back and my koi is on my hip - two areas that
typically are not on display by me.

Although not your specific question, I'll answer by saying I love the
comments and, of course, the compliments. Even those who have offered,
"Oh, I love Tigger!" ;o)

> 3) The Issue of Permanence:
> If your body mod is permanent: How do you feel about the
> permanence of it?

I don't think about that much at all. At first there was the novelty of
"Hey, tattoo. On me." but that's long since faded (not the ink but the
feeling of newness).

> Does that scare you at all?

No.

> Is that part of why you got it?

Not especially.

> What if you regret it later on?

I don't see that happening. And by the time it does, I'll be too old to
care or laser removal will have advanced to a five-minute erasure
process.

> Other thoughts about the permanence?

Nothing's permanent it seems. Least of all flesh.

> 4) Community:
> Does your tattoo / piercing / body mod make you feel
> connected to other people who have done the same thing,
> or not? In what sense?

Yes, in the sense that there's a starting point for a conversation,
absolutely. That is, of course, if the people share that interest in
talking about their tattoos. I've approached people with interesting
ink and politely asked a question or commented/complimented them on
their artwork. Most are eager to share who did the art as well as some
background on the choice of design.

Best of luck with your class.

And, if you're still /here/, what is your tattoo design and would you
mind sharing your answers to the above questions?

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me and I really liked your view
of the aspect of permenance. I also believe that tattoos are becoming
less of a permenant thing and more of a fad with our culture. I think
that tattoos are losing their meaning in the US, nevertheless I will
still continue to tattoo myself. There are definately things that are
permenant today, for instance rape is permenant. However, I think that
permenance is evaporating with technological advances... Death is the
only permenance I can see that is unfixable.
I just have one tattoo right now of a tribal sun on my back.. I got it
with a friend that I grew up with just after I turned 18. I left the
middle of the sun unmarked so that I could go back and have it filled
in when something greatly impacted me or when I had a revelation. I
think that I'm going to get it filled soon with the word "faith." I
think that faith has such a strong impact on our daily lives and lives
overall and that with faith anything is possible. I'm not completely
decided yet however this is what I'm thinking. I would also like to get
another tattoo somewhere either on my back or rib cage.. I like
tattoo's on my back because I can't see them without the help of a
couple mirrors, but I know they're there.

On Nov 16, 4:47 pm, "Curt James" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> jwirkler wrote:
> > I'm currently enrolled in a Philosophy class and we're looking at
> > different aspects of body modification. Here's a survey that was made
> > and I would greatly appreciate it if you took the time to complete the
> > survey. Thanks!!
> > 1) Reflect on the Meaning of your Tattoo / Piercing:
> > To what extent does your tattoo, or piercing, or any other body mod
> > define who youare?So far as appearance goes, my ear piercings or 00 gauge lobes define me
> as someone different than the majority of my coworkers as well as
> adults in general. Although other teachers have piercings, there aren't
> any with stretched lobes. Or at least any that I've met.
>
> Tattoos don't define who I am but rather _re_fine (improve or perfect
> by pruning a la the dermal punching) or, alternatively, add to how I
> feel about myself by the colorful ink and designs.
>
> > What does it say about you?Certainly the Calvin <http://www.geocities.com/curt_james/calvin.html>
> offers an idea about my sense of humor. My koi is a symbol of strength
> and courage, but actually it was just an impulse "Hey, I love that
> flash!" moment. And then there's the first-timer tat in my tiny lizard
> black work which, to me, reminds me of taking that step of getting some
> ink. A good feeling, too.
>
> > Has the meaning of this mark changed, or
> > remained the same?I think a person can overanalyze, but I'd say that the meaning of my
> tattoos hasn't changed.
>
> > 2) Thoughts on Other People's Reactions:
> > Do you like it when people ask you why you got
> > your tattoo / body mod??Why or why not??Typically, I don't get asked why. I receive compliments. People love
> Calvin and Hobbes.
>
> My lizard is on my back and my koi is on my hip - two areas that
> typically are not on display by me.
>
> Although not your specific question, I'll answer by saying I love the
> comments and, of course, the compliments. Even those who have offered,
> "Oh, I love Tigger!" ;o)
>
> > 3) The Issue of Permanence:
> > If your body mod is permanent: How do you feel about the
> > permanence of it?I don't think about that much at all. At first there was the novelty of
> "Hey, tattoo. On me." but that's long since faded (not the ink but the
> feeling of newness).
>
> > Does that scare you at all?No.
>
> > Is that part of why you got it?Not especially.
>
> > What if you regret it later on?I don't see that happening. And by the time it does, I'll be too old to
> care or laser removal will have advanced to a five-minute erasure
> process.
>
> > Other thoughts about the permanence?Nothing's permanent it seems. Least of all flesh.
>
> > 4) Community:
> > Does your tattoo / piercing / body mod make you feel
> > connected to other people who have done the same thing,
> > or not? In what sense?Yes, in the sense that there's a starting point for a conversation,
> absolutely. That is, of course, if the people share that interest in
> talking about their tattoos. I've approached people with interesting
> ink and politely asked a question or commented/complimented them on
> their artwork. Most are eager to share who did the art as well as some
> background on the choice of design.
>
> Best of luck with your class.
>
> And, if you're still /here/, what is your tattoo design and would you
> mind sharing your answers to the above questions?
>
> --
> Curthttp://curtjames.com/

On Nov 16, 8:17 pm, jwirk...@du.edu wrote:
> There are definately things that are
> permenant today, for instance rape is permenant. However, I think that
> permenance is evaporating with technological advances

So rape evaporates?

You stupid cunt.

Die. Just Die.

And take Curt with you.

Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> jwirk wrote:

> > There are definately things that are permenant today,
> > for instance rape is permenant. However, I think that
> > permenance is evaporating with technological advances
>
> So rape evaporates?

Kavvy, you're not much for that whole context thing, are you? D'OH!

The OP offered (and you snipped conveniently) "I also believe that
tattoos are becoming
less of a permenant thing and more of a fad with our culture."

They, from my perspective - ymmOBVIOUSLYv - the OP also offered "rape
is permenant" as an example of the "definately things that are
permanent today," while, again from my perspective, offering that - *in
general* (I made that jump courtesy of just an ounce of context, btw) -
"permenance is evaporating with technological advances.

I would imagine that the OP did not intend anyone to interpret their
statements as an indication that they believe "rape evaporates." I
doubt that anyone viewed the statement in such a way other than you.

However, imo, "evaporating with technological advances," would clearly
mesh with what I mentioned re laser techniques, but, hey, you fixate on
your - what I'd characterize as - nonsense some more, pal.

> You stupid cunt.

Panties... in... a... bunch. You're obviously a fan of Capt. Google,
but have you ever heard tell of Capt. Wedgie? I wonder who that'd be.
Three guesses, yadayada, naturally.

> Die. Just Die.

They say everyone does.

> And take Curt with you.

YES! IT'S ALL ABOUT ME! :oD

> Kavin

As always, thanks for the advertisement, buddy.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/