Upcoming Book on Arabic Tattoos

Hi everyone,

I work for an independent publishing company called Mark Batty
Publisher (www.markbattypublisher.com) and we're working on a book on
Arabic tattoos and western culture. We are trying to collect
photographs from people with Arabic body art for possible use in the
book. So if you're interested, please send pictures of your tattoos to
jon@markbattypublisher.com and we'll see if we could use you in our
book. If we do use your contribution, you'll get a free copy of the
book when it comes out in Spring 2007 and you'll get credit in the book
itself. Thanks.

Take Care,
Jon

jau204@gmail.com wrote:


Hey Jon --

Fuck off.


Kavin

Curt will be along shortly to suck your dick

Kavin Taylor wrote:

re jau204 at g mail dot com's comment about independent publishing
company, Mark
Batty Publisher (www.markbattypublisher.com), and their in-progress
book on Arabic tattoos and western culture and its attempt to collect
photographs from people with Arabic body art for possible use in that
proposed book

> Hey Jon --
>
> [expletive deleted] off.

> Kavin

Some might possibly consider that spam, but I'll guess that more would
consider your posts as trolling (and I'm loathe to use that term as,
hey, I've been called the same by your bestestest buddy and mine
elsewhere, Kavvy).

> Curt will be along shortly to <snip>

Is this the flights of fantasy thread? Because I thought it was about
Arabic tattoos.

To the OP: Best of luck with your project.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

KavinTaylor@gmail.com <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
Kgc> jau204@gmail.com wrote:
Kgc> Hey Jon --
Kgc> Fuck off.

what was the problem with that post? it was on-topic, polite,
didn't ask you to buy anything, & offered compensation. being in books is
fun. justify your actions to me, kav.

lish "you never
crank@got.net make it easy." -sc
43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70

i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:

>what was the problem with that post?


Because it is no different than a person coming to RAB and asking us to
design their tattoo. At least give an indication that you have done
more than just Googled 'tattoo.'

The payment is not relevant. Neither is the fun. I'm sure it would be
fun to get someone to put a crappy tattoo on their body so you can
laugh at them. (There's a thought . . . )

And besides, why not Kanji?

Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>
> >what was the problem with that post?
>
> Because it is no different than a person coming to
> RAB and asking us to design their tattoo.

Apples and oranges much?

The OP has a project and is looking for participants. I recently
mentioned the book Body Type by Ina Saltz which relates to tattooed
type on human flesh.

http://www.amazon.com/Body-Type-Inti.../dp/0810970503

How did Saltz find her participants? Perhaps you helped with that like
you helped on that legislation in Dekalb county? What would have been
wrong with Saltz posting a request for interested parties to be
included in her book? That book, btw, included many images from author
Shelley Jackson's _Skin_ which, yeah, was mentioned in this newsgroup
by one of your aforementioned "us."

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...5f1592bf5977d0

Is that it? That the thing? It's an outsider showing the effrontery of
actually posting to the great and mighty RAB?

> At least give an indication that you have done more than just
> Googled 'tattoo.'

What? Who says they haven't done more than just Googled?

It's not a far stretch to imagine that they've done more than simply
posted to RAB a single time.

> The payment is not relevant. Neither is the fun. I'm
> sure it would be fun to get someone to put a crappy
> tattoo on their body so you can laugh at them. (There's
> a thought . . . )
>
> And besides, why not Kanji?

Why not? Post for participants.

But you won't.

Regardless,

a) Imo, your reply to lish doesn't make a lick of sense.
b) You offered a knee-jerk response to the OP that you obviously didn't
think through. Typical of you.
c) I'm tempted to say the only reason you replied at all was as an
excuse to include your last sentence: "Curt will be along shortly to
suck your dick"

And re c), yes, I realize lish indicated no issue with that.

> Kavin

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

jau204@gmail.com wrote:

<snip>

By the way, did you try uk bodyart?

For many more reasons . . .

But then, you have done your research.


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:

re jau204

> By the way, did you try uk bodyart?

Um, Kavin, yeah, I do believe he effed right the eff off as per your
earlier suggestion. Forget about that? Hmm. How'd it go? Wait here.
I'll just ask Captain Google. Ah, yes.

"[expletive deleted] off."
- Kavin

> For many more reasons . . .
>
> But then, you have done your research.

Whatever. If you'd've thought first, you might have asked the OP that
question instead of what you did, well, offer. And, remember, it
reflects on you.

Hth.

> Kavin

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Curt James wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote:
>
> re jau204
>
> > By the way, did you try uk bodyart?
>
> Um, Kavin, yeah, I do believe he effed right the eff off as per your
> earlier suggestion.

Then why aren't you dead, yet?

I made that suggestion several times.



Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt James wrote:
> > Kavin Taylor wrote:
> >
> > re jau204
> >
> > > By the way, did you try uk bodyart?
> >
> > Um, Kavin, yeah, I do believe he effed right the eff off as per your
> > earlier suggestion.
>
> Then why aren't you dead, yet?
>
> I made that suggestion several times.

Perhaps I'm not as prone to suggestion as the OP. ;o)

Nevertheless, it still reflects on you.

> Kavin

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

KavinTaylor@gmail.com <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
Kgc> i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
>>what was the problem with that post?
Kgc> Because it is no different than a person coming to RAB and asking us to
Kgc> design their tattoo. At least give an indication that you have done
Kgc> more than just Googled 'tattoo.'

sure it was. "compensation", for starters.

Kgc> The payment is not relevant. Neither is the fun. I'm sure it would be
Kgc> fun to get someone to put a crappy tattoo on their body so you can
Kgc> laugh at them. (There's a thought . . . )

fun is always relevant. there's precious little left on rab.

Kgc> And besides, why not Kanji?

write your own book. put your kanji rocker on the cover!

lish "well i, i might be wrong,
crank@got.net but you, you tag along." -mm
43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70

Just so everyone knows: I have been doing a ton of research on this
topic and I did not just google "tattoo," but since it's a relatively
new trend it has been difficult to find info and gather contacts. We
are a small company (not a huge corporation) who actually does care
about visual culture and communication, and we're trying to bring this
subcultural idea out into the open. I am also interested in anything
that anyone has to say on the topic, whether you're for it or against
it, so perhaps people can start posting statements to that effect?

In the meantime, I appreciate the support ' i'll teach you...,' and if
anyone still wants to share their bodywork for the purpose of this book
or has an expertise in this field and wished to comment, email me at
jon@markbattypublisher.com.

Take care.

i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> KavinTaylor@gmail.com <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kgc> i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> >>what was the problem with that post?
> Kgc> Because it is no different than a person coming to RAB and asking us to
> Kgc> design their tattoo. At least give an indication that you have done
> Kgc> more than just Googled 'tattoo.'
>
> sure it was. "compensation", for starters.
>
> Kgc> The payment is not relevant. Neither is the fun. I'm sure it would be
> Kgc> fun to get someone to put a crappy tattoo on their body so you can
> Kgc> laugh at them. (There's a thought . . . )
>
> fun is always relevant. there's precious little left on rab.
>
> Kgc> And besides, why not Kanji?
>
> write your own book. put your kanji rocker on the cover!
>
> lish "well i, i might be wrong,
> crank@got.net but you, you tag along." -mm
> 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70

Just so everyone knows: I have been doing a ton of research on this
topic and I did not just google "tattoo," but since Arabic tattoos is a
relatively new trend (that's why we are doing the book on that instead
of kanji, and plus we already did a book on some aspect of Japanese
design and are not ready to go back to it just yet) it has been
difficult to find info and gather contacts. We are a small company (not
a huge corporation) who actually does care about visual culture and
communication, and we're trying to bring this subcultural idea out into
the open. I am also interested in anything that anyone has to say on
the topic, whether you're for it or against it, so perhaps people can
start posting statements to that effect?

In the meantime, I appreciate the support ' i'll teach you...,' and if
anyone still wants to share their bodywork for the purpose of this book
or has an expertise in this field and wished to comment, email me at
jon@markbattypublisher.com.

Take care.

i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> KavinTaylor@gmail.com <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kgc> i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:
> >>what was the problem with that post?
> Kgc> Because it is no different than a person coming to RAB and asking us to
> Kgc> design their tattoo. At least give an indication that you have done
> Kgc> more than just Googled 'tattoo.'
>
> sure it was. "compensation", for starters.
>
> Kgc> The payment is not relevant. Neither is the fun. I'm sure it would be
> Kgc> fun to get someone to put a crappy tattoo on their body so you can
> Kgc> laugh at them. (There's a thought . . . )
>
> fun is always relevant. there's precious little left on rab.
>
> Kgc> And besides, why not Kanji?
>
> write your own book. put your kanji rocker on the cover!
>
> lish "well i, i might be wrong,
> crank@got.net but you, you tag along." -mm
> 43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70

jau204@gmail.com wrote:
J2> Just so everyone knows: I have been doing a ton of research on this
J2> topic and I did not just google "tattoo,"

And again: did you try uk bodyart?


J2>but since it's a relatively
> J2new trend

So why do a book on it?

>it has been difficult to find info and gather contacts.

Again, one post to RAB is not impressive research.

>We
> are a small company (not a huge corporation) who actually does care
> about visual culture and communication, and we're trying to bring this
> subcultural idea out into the open.

Uh, that is always the point about sub-culture. It really doesn't
stand up to the light of day. You are trying to mainstream it. Sorry.
Doesn't work. And it is a company that cares. You're scaring me.

> I am also interested in anything
> that anyone has to say on the topic, whether you're for it or against
> it, so perhaps people can start posting statements to that effect?

Tell you what, give me details about you, then maybe I'll give you
details about me. But Arabic tattoos? No. And you do need to define
what YOU mean by Arabic tattoo.

And by the way, why aren't you using a company e-mail address?

Makes me think you aren't on the payroll, know what I mean?

Kavin

jau204@gmail.com <jau204@gmail.com> wrote:
jgc> In the meantime, I appreciate the support ' i'll teach you...,' and if

yeah. i'm supporting the way you asked, not the idea. yet another
$35 coffeetable book of awful tattoos is, as far as i'm concerned, a
stupid idea.

lish "& help's not short when you're digging
crank@got.net your grave. i'll help you dig it." -mm
43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70