Sterile Saran Wrap?

I was informed the other day by our local health inspector that another
shop here in town was using a plastic wrap type material and claiming
that it was fine to do due to the fact that they were using a sterile
plastic wrap. I have never heard of such a thing and was wondering if
in fact such a product exists and if so where one would find such a
thing. Our local health code for "body crafting" states that only
sterile bandages can be used after the procedure and I'm a little upset
that the inspector would simply just take the shops word on it without
actually looking into it or even requesting to see the product when I
was made to go out of my way to prove that Biosurf was EPA approved
before I could use it for disinfecting. So if anyone would be so kind
to share any information that they might have then I would be more then
grateful.

Thanks,
Jon

rev_bama@yahoo.com wrote:
> I was informed the other day by our local health inspector that another
> shop here in town was using a plastic wrap type material and claiming
> that it was fine to do due to the fact that they were using a sterile
> plastic wrap. I have never heard of such a thing and was wondering if
> in fact such a product exists

Apparently so.

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1468422

(Mention of "sterile Saran Wrap" is in there, fwiw.)

> and if so where one would find such a thing.

No offense, but I don't care. I suspect the tattoo artists who slapped
Saran on my fresh tattoos purchased it at the local grocery.

My hip hasn't broken, my back is still able to support my immense head,
and my calf continues to support all the rest. I'm guessing, therefore,
that the Saran did its job without insult.

> Our local health code for "body crafting" states that only sterile
> bandages can be used after the procedure and I'm a little upset that
> the inspector would simply just take the shops word on it without
> actually looking into it or even requesting to see the product when I
> was made to go out of my way to prove that Biosurf was EPA approved
> before I could use it for disinfecting. So if anyone would be so kind
> to share any information that they might have then I would be more then
> grateful.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon

Jon, you're a tattoo artist? Must be frustrating if the inspector is
holding you to stricter observation than neighboring shops, if that's
indeed the case.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Curt James wrote:
> rev_bama@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I was informed the other day by our local health inspector that another
> > shop here in town was using a plastic wrap type material and claiming
> > that it was fine to do due to the fact that they were using a sterile
> > plastic wrap. I have never heard of such a thing and was wondering if
> > in fact such a product exists
>
> Apparently so.
>
> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1468422
>
> (Mention of "sterile Saran Wrap" is in there, fwiw.)
>
> > and if so where one would find such a thing.
>
> No offense, but I don't care. I suspect the tattoo artists who slapped
> Saran on my fresh tattoos purchased it at the local grocery.
>
> My hip hasn't broken, my back is still able to support my immense head,
> and my calf continues to support all the rest. I'm guessing, therefore,
> that the Saran did its job without insult.
>
> > Our local health code for "body crafting" states that only sterile
> > bandages can be used after the procedure and I'm a little upset that
> > the inspector would simply just take the shops word on it without
> > actually looking into it or even requesting to see the product when I
> > was made to go out of my way to prove that Biosurf was EPA approved
> > before I could use it for disinfecting. So if anyone would be so kind
> > to share any information that they might have then I would be more then
> > grateful.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
>
> Jon, you're a tattoo artist? Must be frustrating if the inspector is
> holding you to stricter observation than neighboring shops, if that's
> indeed the case.
>
> --
> Curt
> http://curtjames.com/

> Jon, you're a tattoo artist? Must be frustrating if the inspector is
> holding you to stricter observation than neighboring shops, if that's
> indeed the case.


Actually it is quite frustrating. Don't get me wrong he's a nice guy
but I don't really think that he's doing the greatest job. The code was
just recently written basically to crack down on people who are working
out of the back of barber shops and such doing under age and unsafe
tattooing but he hasn't really done much about it despite being given
exact accounts and directions to said places. Another thing that is
quite annoying is that with the shop that is supposedly using the
sterile plastic wrap he dosen't say much to them because in his words
"the owner gets pissy real easy so I have to handle them very
carefully". If someone's not doing what the rest of us are required to
then you make them cease and desist and change to comply to the code.
Thank you for the help though however.

Jon

rev_b...@yahoo.com wrote:

> > Jon, you're a tattoo artist? Must be frustrating if the inspector is
> > holding you to stricter observation than neighboring shops, if that's
> > indeed the case.
>
>
> Actually it is quite frustrating. Don't get me wrong he's a nice guy
> but I don't really think that he's doing the greatest job. The code was
> just recently written basically to crack down on people who are working
> out of the back of barber shops and such doing under age and unsafe
> tattooing but he hasn't really done much about it despite being given
> exact accounts and directions to said places. Another thing that is
> quite annoying is that with the shop that is supposedly using the
> sterile plastic wrap he dosen't say much to them because in his words
> "the owner gets pissy real easy so I have to handle them very
> carefully". If someone's not doing what the rest of us are required to
> then you make them cease and desist and change to comply to the code.
> Thank you for the help though however.

That sounds ridiculous. No specifics necessary, but I'm curious about
what general part of the planet you reside.

And you're right, of course, if a law's being broken then consequences
should be uniform.

Hey, from now on perhaps you should simply "gets pissy real easy" so
the idiot handles YOU very carefully, right?

> Jon

Best of luck.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

> That sounds ridiculous. No specifics necessary, but I'm curious about
> what general part of the planet you reside.

Atlanta,Ga but more specifically Dekalb county. The other main part of
Atlanta is Fulton county but they have yet to pass any law so most of
the "back room" scrathers just move a block or two over into fulton
county's "lawless" zone.

> Hey, from now on perhaps you should simply "gets pissy real easy" so
> the idiot handles YOU very carefully, right?

No that's not much for me. To be honest I really like the fact that we
are regulated or at least the concept of it but it's not turing out to
be what I hoped it would be. There are some real horror stories that I
see and hear about sometimes and I was hoping that this new legislation
would help police things like that but to no avail. I'm not upset about
a shop using saran wrap, I'm upset that this incident has made me aware
that the only thing the health board is doing to help protect the
community is charging me a licensing few so they can put some guy on
the pay roll. I like law and order not the illusion of it.


Jon

> That sounds ridiculous. No specifics necessary, but I'm curious about
> what general part of the planet you reside.

Atlanta,Ga but more specifically Dekalb county. The other main part of
Atlanta is Fulton county but they have yet to pass any law so most of
the "back room" scrathers just move a block or two over into fulton
county's "lawless" zone.

> Hey, from now on perhaps you should simply "gets pissy real easy" so
> the idiot handles YOU very carefully, right?

No that's not much for me. To be honest I really like the fact that we
are regulated or at least the concept of it but it's not turing out to
be what I hoped it would be. There are some real horror stories that I
see and hear about sometimes and I was hoping that this new legislation
would help police things like that but to no avail. I'm not upset about
a shop using saran wrap, I'm upset that this incident has made me aware
that the only thing the health board is doing to help protect the
community is charging me a licensing fee so they can put some guy on
the pay roll. I like law and order not the illusion of it.


Jon

> That sounds ridiculous. No specifics necessary, but I'm curious about
> what general part of the planet you reside.

Atlanta,Ga but more specifically Dekalb county. The other main part of
Atlanta is Fulton county but they have yet to pass any law so most of
the "back room" scrathers just move a block or two over into fulton
county's "lawless" zone.

> Hey, from now on perhaps you should simply "gets pissy real easy" so
> the idiot handles YOU very carefully, right?

No that's not much for me. To be honest I really like the fact that we
are regulated or at least the concept of it but it's not turning out to
be what I hoped it would be. There are some real horror stories that I
see and hear about sometimes and I was hoping that this new legislation
would help police things like that but to no avail. I'm not upset about
a shop using saran wrap, I'm upset that this incident has made me aware
that the only thing the health board is doing to help protect the
community is charging me a licensing fee so they can put some guy on
the pay roll. I like law and order not the illusion of it.

Jon

rev_bama@yahoo.com wrote:

re location

> Atlanta,Ga but more specifically Dekalb county.

Okay, thanks.

I was in your neck of the woods not so awfully long ago. Ate at
Pittypat's Porch, Ray's, and a bunch of other restaurants.

> The other main part of Atlanta is Fulton county but they have yet
> to pass any law so most of the "back room" scrathers just move
> a block or two over into fulton county's "lawless" zone.
>
> > Hey, from now on perhaps you should simply "gets pissy real easy"
> > so the idiot handles YOU very carefully, right?
>
> No that's not much for me. To be honest I really like the fact that we
> are regulated or at least the concept of it but it's not turning out to
> be what I hoped it would be. There are some real horror stories that I
> see and hear about sometimes and I was hoping that this new legislation
> would help police things like that but to no avail. I'm not upset about
> a shop using saran wrap, I'm upset that this incident has made me aware
> that the only thing the health board is doing to help protect the
> community is charging me a licensing fee so they can put some guy on
> the pay roll. I like law and order not the illusion of it.

An excellent civics lesson, rev_bama, if an equally sad and unfortunate
commentary on the seemingly typical "business as usual" of government.
:o(

> Jon

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Curt James wrote:
> An excellent civics lesson, rev_bama, if an equally sad and unfortunate
> commentary on the seemingly typical "business as usual" of government.


Shut the fuck up.

You know nothing abouth what is going on here.

I do. I was around (and helped) with the legislation.

He doesn't understand what could have happened had the legislation not
passed as it did. And no, it is not just a guy collecting a check.

You don't understand because you are ignorant. Stop offering advice
for things you don't know about.

It wasn't a good civics lesson. Once again, a reason you should not be
a teacher. Uninformed but vocal. What a tool.

Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt James wrote:

> > An excellent civics lesson, rev_bama, if an equally
> > sad and unfortunate commentary on the seemingly
> > typical "business as usual" of government.
>
>
> Shut the [expletive deleted] up.
>
> You know nothing abouth

Abouth? Could you calm down or slow down just a tad, Kavvy? And, hey,
for someone who believes it rude to show his tongue, you certainly have
what some might describe as a potty mouth.

> what is going on here.

You having another hissy fit?

"Kavin, do you take this hissy fit to be your lawfully wedded
somethingsomething?"

> I do.

"Very well, therefore in the name of crybabies everywhere, I now
pronounce you whiner and complainer. You may now kiss the nearest
legislator."

> I was around (and helped) with the legislation.

That's nice. Do you know where the OP can find some sterile plastic
wrap? Because that would help.

Anyway.

Hey, have you ever eaten at Pittypat's Porch? Maaan, that was a great
meal.

Just LOOK at the menu!

http://www.pittypatsrestaurant.com/menu.html

> He doesn't understand what could have happened
> had the legislation not passed as it did.

Would the planet have stopped spinning? Because I've heard that would
be a bad thing.

> And no, it is not just a guy collecting a check.

So they do it for free? Cool. Well, not for the guy, of course. How
DOES he make ends meet? Is he your roommate? That's awfully generous of
you if it is.

"Hi, I'm NOT just a guy collecting a check. That's right, I have no
money, but I need somewhere to crash. Can you help me?"

That's very charitable, Kavin. Well done.

> You don't understand because you are ignorant.

On many topics. And you?

> Stop offering advice for things you don't know about.

No advice was offered. Read for content much, Kavin?

I did, however, offer that,

a) "the Saran did its job without insult," wrt my tattoos. A
biographical aside with some context attachment as it at least related
to plastic wrap. What you got, Kavin? I mean other than your underoos
all inna bunch again?
b) Then I asked if the OP is a tattoo artist. Yeah, THAT sounds like
advice.
c) I also offered that it must be frustrating IF the inspector is
holding the OP to stricter observation than neighboring shops while
even adding, "if that's indeed the case." That's a pair of ifs. Care to
raise or will you fold?
d) I said his alleged plight sounds ridiculous. And it does. Still,
that doesn't constitute advice, imo. Ymmv.
e) I asked what general part of the planet he claims as his neck of the
woods. That advice, Kavin?

Tourist: "Excuse me, sir, could you please give me some advice? What's
a good restaurant around here?"
Local: "Where are you from, Mr. Tourist?"
Tourist: "Uh, Kansas, but I'm looking for a diner recommendation. Or,
you know, some place that has decent food, okay?"
Local: "You're not from these parts, are you?"
Tourist: "No, I said, I'm from Kansas. So, there's nothing nearby? No
local place to grab a nice bite to eat?"
Local: "What part of the planet are you from?"
Tourist: "Okay, well, thank you for your time."

(rolls up window and locks door)

Yeah, you're right. It was advice.

f) Plus, I also mentioned that IF a law has been broken then
conseqences should be uniform. (That's not unreasonable in your eyes,
is it, Kavvy? That's also NOT advice.)
g) Oh, *gee!* g) just might hold some "advice" as I suggested the OP
should "gets pissy real easy" to perhaps match the reception the OP
argued the other shop owner was receiving from the local health
inspector. Again, unreasonable? No. More of a joke than advice, though,
from my perspective. And, yeah, the OP nixed using that strategy
anyway, but, hey, I guess you DIDN'T READ THAT EITHER. No surprise, of
course.
h) Mentioned that I'd been to Atlanta. Advice? No. Still, given the
opportunity I'd certainly recommend the city and the state to one and
all. Had a great time.
i) And I, well, you know all "abouth" the rest, don't you? It's at the
top of this post.

Now, where's that advice, Kavvy? Sympathy more like. The OP's
frustrated by what he apparently sees or perceives as a local official
not enforcing the law fairly.

Why don't you run along and help with some legislation that will fix
*that*?

> It wasn't a good civics lesson. Once again, a reason you should not be
> a teacher. Uninformed but vocal. What a tool.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kavin. Boo hoo. What a EVER, too, pal.

> Kavin

Why don't you take this opportunity to engage the OP in helpful and
intelligent dialogue, okay? An email wouldn't be out of the question if
you're too shy to offer actual advice (nothing from a - i above,
either. Well, there's the questionable g, but I still say that was more
humor than anything).

Because helpful and intelligent dialogue is what this newsgoup should
be all aboutH. ;o)

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/