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My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? Sincerely, Thomas -- Thomas Christopher Jarvis - I do what I like, I like what I do "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens." - Angelina Jolie |
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Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > Hello! > > My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? Try one of those buildings that holds a lot of books. What's it called? Yes, a library. And you might narrow that Indian thing down a bit. But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your life, you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that person or that painting or that picture, etc. Kavin |
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Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote:
> Hello! > > My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? [...] What did your search include? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana "The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana." May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading: http://www.kacike.org/cac-ike/ReviewContents.html Which, in turn, offered a link for Guyana's Amerindian Peoples Association Homepage: http://www.sdnp.org.gy/apa/ Best of luck in your search. -- Curt http://curtjames.com/ |
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"KavinTaylor@gmail.com" <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: >> Hello! >> >> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she >> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol >> representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find >> anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? > > >Try one of those buildings that holds a lot of books. What's it >called? > >Yes, a library. I might do that. >And you might narrow that Indian thing down a bit. Why? >But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your life, >you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that person >or that painting or that picture, etc. Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half indian...it kinda slipped out... > >Kavin -- Thomas Christopher Jarvis - I do what I like, I like what I do "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens." - Angelina Jolie |
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"Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she >> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol >> representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find >> anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? >[...] > >What did your search include? > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana > >"The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are >the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, >Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana." > >May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link >that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading: > >http://www.kacike.org/cac-ike/ReviewContents.html > >Which, in turn, offered a link for Guyana's Amerindian Peoples >Association Homepage: > >http://www.sdnp.org.gy/apa/ > >Best of luck in your search. > Yeah, I've read those pages, it is very interesting. Have also read the book 'Papillon' by Henri Charriere which is an account of his imprisonment on Devil Island, and his final escape. -- Thomas Christopher Jarvis - I do what I like, I like what I do "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens." - Angelina Jolie |
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Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: Kavin Taylor wrote: > kt> >But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your life, kt> >you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that person kt> >or that painting or that picture, etc. > tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half tc> indian...it kinda slipped out... And your original statement was: tc>> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she tc>> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol tc>> representing something meaningful to her people. So always wanted is what, two years ago? Think a little longer, skippy. Kavin |
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Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote:
> "Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote: > >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > > > >> Hello! > >> > >> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > >> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > >> representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > >> anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? > >[...] > > > >What did your search include? > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana > > > >"The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are > >the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, > >Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana." > > > >May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link > >that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading: > > > >http://www.kacike.org/cac-ike/ReviewContents.html > > > >Which, in turn, offered a link for Guyana's Amerindian Peoples > >Association Homepage: > > > >http://www.sdnp.org.gy/apa/ > > > >Best of luck in your search. > > > > Yeah, I've read those pages, it is very interesting. Have also read > the book 'Papillon' by Henri Charriere which is an account of his > imprisonment on Devil Island, and his final escape. I've never read the book, but saw the movie on the big screen. IMDb says I must have been 11 or 12. Awesome flick. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070511/ -- Curt http://curtjames.com/ |
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"Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: >> "Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote: >> >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: >> > >> >> Hello! >> >> >> >> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she >> >> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol >> >> representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find >> >> anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? >> >[...] >> > >> >What did your search include? >> > >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana >> > >> >"The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are >> >the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, >> >Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana." >> > >> >May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link >> >that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading: >> > >> >http://www.kacike.org/cac-ike/ReviewContents.html >> > >> >Which, in turn, offered a link for Guyana's Amerindian Peoples >> >Association Homepage: >> > >> >http://www.sdnp.org.gy/apa/ >> > >> >Best of luck in your search. >> > >> >> Yeah, I've read those pages, it is very interesting. Have also read >> the book 'Papillon' by Henri Charriere which is an account of his >> imprisonment on Devil Island, and his final escape. > >I've never read the book, but saw the movie on the big screen. IMDb >says I must have been 11 or 12. Awesome flick. > >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070511/ > The book is even better...a very detailed account... -- Thomas Christopher Jarvis - I do what I like, I like what I do "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens." - Angelina Jolie |
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"KavinTaylor@gmail.com" <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > >Kavin Taylor wrote: >> >kt> >But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your >life, >kt> >you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that >person >kt> >or that painting or that picture, etc. >> >tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half >tc> indian...it kinda slipped out... > > >And your original statement was: > >tc>> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, >she >tc>> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol >tc>> representing something meaningful to her people. > > >So always wanted is what, two years ago? > >Think a little longer, skippy. About 5 years ago. I could have stated 'as long as I have wanted a tattoo, I've wanted one that is meaningful to me, not the yin-yang-stuff Kavin wants... -- Thomas Christopher Jarvis - I do what I like, I like what I do "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; shit happens." - Angelina Jolie |
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Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > "KavinTaylor@gmail.com" <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote: > >tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half > >tc> indian...it kinda slipped out... Why did you use "slipped out?" > About 5 years ago. I could have stated 'as long as I have wanted a > tattoo, I've wanted one that is meaningful to me, not the > yin-yang-stuff Kavin wants... You toss terms rather flippantly. 'Indian" is a vague term. Which group, or don't you know? And it's not yin-yang here. How meaningful can this really be if you are asking us for patterns? For five years you've wanted something meaningful to you, but you don't know what it could be. I'd suggest you take another five years to do some family history work. It this is as meaningful as you think, you'll find what you're looking for. Or you'll just get drunk and get a Taz. Kavin |
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Thomas Christopher Jarvis <tchris-j@online.no> wrote:
> "KavinTaylor@gmail.com" <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: >> >>Kavin Taylor wrote: >>> >>kt> >But I'm curious that if it is something you've wanted all your >>life, >>kt> >you had to have been exposed to the culture some way. Try that >>person >>kt> >or that painting or that picture, etc. >>> >>tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half >>tc> indian...it kinda slipped out... >> >> >>And your original statement was: >> >>tc>> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, >>she >>tc>> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol >>tc>> representing something meaningful to her people. >> >> >>So always wanted is what, two years ago? >> >>Think a little longer, skippy. > > About 5 years ago. I could have stated 'as long as I have wanted a > tattoo, I've wanted one that is meaningful to me, not the > yin-yang-stuff Kavin wants... > Blah, your idea is fucking lame. Go get a yosemite sam or something. -----yttrx -- http://www.yttrx.net |
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KavinTaylor@gmail.com <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: >> "KavinTaylor@gmail.com" <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >tc> Well, I only realised a few years back that my grandfather was half >> >tc> indian...it kinda slipped out... > > Why did you use "slipped out?" > > >> About 5 years ago. I could have stated 'as long as I have wanted a >> tattoo, I've wanted one that is meaningful to me, not the >> yin-yang-stuff Kavin wants... > > You toss terms rather flippantly. 'Indian" is a vague term. Which > group, or don't you know? And it's not yin-yang here. > > How meaningful can this really be if you are asking us for patterns? > For five years you've wanted something meaningful to you, but you don't > know what it could be. > > I'd suggest you take another five years to do some family history > work. It this is as meaningful as you think, you'll find what you're > looking for. > > Or you'll just get drunk and get a Taz. > See, this moron doesnt realize that hes the 8841 person to come through here in the last ten years asking everyone around here to do his himwork for him so he doesnt have to spend too much time coming up with THE TATTOO THAT HE ALWAYS WANTED. And come on. An indian in norway? A cabbie indian maybe, but no way a bourbon indian. -----yttrx -- http://www.yttrx.net |
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"Thomas Christopher Jarvis" <tchris-j@online.no> wrote in message news:kbmin2p7ga2umpjvo0d69vf2m98ttcnl9m@4ax.com... > "Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote: > > >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > >> "Curt James" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >Thomas Christopher Jarvis wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hello! > >> >> > >> >> My great grandmother is from french Guiana in the South Americas, she > >> >> was an indian. I have always wanted a tattoo with a symbol > >> >> representing something meaningful to her people. I am unable to find > >> >> anything on the net...does anyone know what I should do? > >> >[...] > >> > > >> >What did your search include? > >> > > >> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana > >> > > >> >"The main Amerindian groups (forming about 3%-4% of the population) are > >> >the Arawak, Emerillon, Galibi (now called the Kaliņa), Palikour, > >> >Wayampi (also known as Oyampi) and Wayana." > >> > > >> >May not be at all related to your great grandmother, however a link > >> >that leads to - imo - some very interesting reading: > >> > > >> >http://www.kacike.org/cac-ike/ReviewContents.html > >> > > >> >Which, in turn, offered a link for Guyana's Amerindian Peoples > >> >Association Homepage: > >> > > >> >http://www.sdnp.org.gy/apa/ > >> > > >> >Best of luck in your search. > >> > > >> > >> Yeah, I've read those pages, it is very interesting. Have also read > >> the book 'Papillon' by Henri Charriere which is an account of his > >> imprisonment on Devil Island, and his final escape. > > > >I've never read the book, but saw the movie on the big screen. IMDb > >says I must have been 11 or 12. Awesome flick. > > > >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070511/ > > > > The book is even better...a very detailed account... > -- > Thomas Christopher Jarvis - I do what I like, I like what I do > > "You're young, you're drunk, you're in bed, you have knives; > shit happens." - Angelina Jolie His "autobiography" is just a fictionalized conglomeration of stories he collected. Granted part of it was true but nowhere near the whole story. "Modern researchers, however, believe that Charričre got much of his story material from other inmates, and see the work as more fictionalized than a true autobiography. In 2005, a 104-year-old man in Paris, Charles Brunier, claimed to be the real Papillon. Modern critics tend to agree that Charričre's depictions included events that happened to others, and that Brunier was at the prison at the same time." If you want to read a true autobiography, read Rene Belbenoits' "Dry Guillotine". If this is the level of your research, you may end up with a taz tattoo after all. wasn't he a real indigenous Tasmanian mammal. In regards to wanting a tattoo to commemorate your theoretical heritage, do some real research, find out WHAT ACTUAL FUCKING TRIBE your G-grandmother belonged to, find out what their symbology was and how it may have pertained to HER LIFE and then you might get a meaningful tattoo out of it. Or listen to Curt. |
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KavinTaylor@gmail.com schreef: > Lubbert Das wrote: > >> Or listen to Curt. > > Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhjahahaha hahh. > > You get it! > > Kavin Yup, plus if the original poster typed Guyana instead of guiana (which curt ommited to correct btw) he'd find even more material...he might even try googling Guyane Francaise, just saying... Corine |