Magnetic Implants for Magic

I have been doing a little research online into implants. The type of
stainless steel used for piercings and body jewelry is known as 316.
And according to what I'm reading, it seems that this alloy can become
ferromagnetic when worked under very cold temperatures. Other stainless
steel alloys, such as 420 (Used in many knives), are already
ferromagnetic. I don't see any reason why I couldn't use 420 as an
implant, as they don't contain any nickel, like 316 does. 316 has a
very low nickel concentration that doesn't usually cause problems, but
420 might be even better this way, and I can't imagine any problems
using it because it is also stainless steel.

Austenitic stainless steel, is the kind used in piercing, and cointains
a small ammount of nickel which can be poisoness. But people are using
it anyway, because it is the only kind of stainless steel that isn't
ferromagnetic.

♦ Austenitic: Chromium-nickel-iron alloys with 16-26% chromium, 6-22%
nickel (Ni), and low carbon content, with non-magnetic properties (if
annealed - working it at low temperatures, then heated and cooled).
Nickel increases corrosion resistance. Hardenable by cold-working
(worked at low temperatures) as well as tempering (heated then cooled).
Type 304 (S30400) or "18/8" (18% chromium 8% nickel), is the most
commonly used grade or composition.

Martensitic is the kind of stainless steel used in knives, and doesn't
contain any nickel. So is perfectly safe, and it is extremely magnetic.

♦ Martensitic: Chromium-iron alloys with 10.5-17% chromium and
carefully controlled carbon content, hardenable by quenching (quickly
cooled in water or oil) and tempering (heated then cooled). It has
magnetic properties. Commonly used in knives. Martensitic grades are
strong and hard, but are brittle and difficult to form and weld. Type
420 (S42000) is a typical example.

Can anyone tell me if having a little 420 stainless steel implanted
into my hand would cause any problems ordinary surgical steel wouldn't?
Tattoo & piercing artists preform this kind of operation, so I could
just talk to a local worker about it. But I want to get some other
opinions.

My plan is to have the implant on both of the backs of my hands, right
in the fleshy webbing between my thumb and index finger. It will be
the perfect spot to conceal something that is already magnetic, and I
will be able to show both the front and the backs of my hand to be
empty with the right sleights of hand. I like this idea much better
than actually implanting a magnet into my hand, as magnets are known to
be dangerously poisoness. But stainless steel can behave
ferromagnetically and is attracted to magnets regardless of the
polarity (So they won't be prone to rotating underneath my sknin).

And the best part is that they already sell many common things with
magnets secretly hidden inside. You can buy magnetic quarters and
other coins at the magic shop to do sleight of hand with. And that
would be even more amazing that picking up a regular piece of metal
with your hand since normally coins are not even ferromagnetic.

I got this idea after learning a new trick, that works very much like
this without the ferromagnetic implants. You just use a little of
natures gifts, and sleight of hand to make a coin completely dissapear
and reapear in either one of your hands. Its a cool trick, but it
would be even cooler if I had implants to do the job.

This is a serious question, so get back to me with serious responses.
Thanks!

I've got this plan for a brain piercing. Right down the center, between
the halves. Should be possible, I'm looking for someone willing to let
me try it on them.

Just think, you could be the first person in the world with a full
brain piercing! I think it should be a capture beaded ring. Probably
have to seal it with silicon or something to keep the juice from
leaking out.

But you would be famous! You could be in the Ripley's museum!

Nyx

Nyx wrote:

> I've got this plan for a brain piercing. Right
> down the center, between the halves.
> Should be possible, I'm looking for someone
> willing to let me try it on them.

I believe it's been done. And more than once.

> Just think, you could be the first person in the
> world with a full brain piercing!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain

> I think it should be a capture beaded ring.

I've seen articles in the newspaper about javelins as well. And farm
equipment.

> Probably have to seal it with silicon or
> something to keep the juice from leaking out.
>
> But you would be famous! You could be in
> the Ripley's museum!

Cool.

> Nyx

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Nyx wrote:
> I've got this plan for a brain piercing. Right down the center, between
> the halves. Should be possible, I'm looking for someone willing to let
> me try it on them.
>
> Just think, you could be the first person in the world with a full
> brain piercing! I think it should be a capture beaded ring. Probably
> have to seal it with silicon or something to keep the juice from
> leaking out.
>
> But you would be famous! You could be in the Ripley's museum!
>
> Nyx

I called tattoo shops all over the state, and found out they have laws
against implants in Ohio. So I'm going to have to preform the
implantation myself. I order a few different sizes of stainless steel
ball bearings. 1/64 of an inch is the smallest I could find, which is
much smaller than the ball of a pen. I got 440's, which have no nickel
and are extremely durable, more so than 420s. Plus they are magnetic.


It should be hard to just cut a small opening under the first layer of
my skin and insert the ball myself. If I do it right I probably won't
even bleed. And I know the hardest part is just going to be stitching
my hand back up. But it probably will only need one or two stiches
with such a small opening.

Will let you all know how it goes. The idea isn't to create a spot on
my hand that is visible. I'm just using the smallest possible pieces
of magnetically safe metal. So a magnetic quarter will be able to rest
on the back of my hand, where no one will be able to see it. So no one
will be able to notice the magnetic implant either.

CoreyWhite wrote:
>
> I called tattoo shops all over the state, and found out they have laws
> against implants in Ohio. So I'm going to have to preform the
> implantation myself. I order a few different sizes of stainless steel
> ball bearings. 1/64 of an inch is the smallest I could find, which is
> much smaller than the ball of a pen. I got 440's, which have no nickel
> and are extremely durable, more so than 420s. Plus they are magnetic.
>
>
> It should be hard to just cut a small opening under the first layer of
> my skin and insert the ball myself. If I do it right I probably won't
> even bleed. And I know the hardest part is just going to be stitching
> my hand back up. But it probably will only need one or two stiches
> with such a small opening.
>
> Will let you all know how it goes. The idea isn't to create a spot on
> my hand that is visible. I'm just using the smallest possible pieces
> of magnetically safe metal. So a magnetic quarter will be able to rest
> on the back of my hand, where no one will be able to see it. So no one
> will be able to notice the magnetic implant either.

If you are seriously going to do this, Corey, you should still go visit
some tattoo/piercing shops and talk to the staff there. They may not
be able to legally do implants, but they can still give you information
and advice. Plus, you can ask them to sterilize your equipment and the
ball bearings for you in their autoclave, which they might do for free,
or maybe a small fee.

mika wrote:

<snipped>

I'll sell you some troll food for $25 a handful.

Unfortunately, I can't retrieve your dignity.

(I suspect that's been long-gone)


Kavin

mika wrote:
> CoreyWhite wrote:
> >
> > I called tattoo shops all over the state, and found out they have laws
> > against implants in Ohio. So I'm going to have to preform the
> > implantation myself. I order a few different sizes of stainless steel
> > ball bearings. 1/64 of an inch is the smallest I could find, which is
> > much smaller than the ball of a pen. I got 440's, which have no nickel
> > and are extremely durable, more so than 420s. Plus they are magnetic.
> >
> >
> > It should be hard to just cut a small opening under the first layer of
> > my skin and insert the ball myself. If I do it right I probably won't
> > even bleed. And I know the hardest part is just going to be stitching
> > my hand back up. But it probably will only need one or two stiches
> > with such a small opening.
> >
> > Will let you all know how it goes. The idea isn't to create a spot on
> > my hand that is visible. I'm just using the smallest possible pieces
> > of magnetically safe metal. So a magnetic quarter will be able to rest
> > on the back of my hand, where no one will be able to see it. So no one
> > will be able to notice the magnetic implant either.
>
> If you are seriously going to do this, Corey, you should still go visit
> some tattoo/piercing shops and talk to the staff there. They may not
> be able to legally do implants, but they can still give you information
> and advice. Plus, you can ask them to sterilize your equipment and the
> ball bearings for you in their autoclave, which they might do for free,
> or maybe a small fee.

It is a good idea but I don't think it is going to get infected. I can
steralize it at home well enough, and will be using brand new
equipment. I'm still not sure what the best tool to cut myself open
will be, but I think I'm going to use a razor. Because it is really
good about cutting just the first layer of skin.

"CoreyWhite" <CoreyWhite@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I called tattoo shops all over the state, and found out they have laws
> against implants in Ohio. So I'm going to have to preform the
> implantation myself.

Be sure you post the video.

CoreyWhite wrote:

> I have been doing a little research online into implants.
[...]

> <snip> so get back to me with serious responses.
> Thanks!

Interesting.

Have you run across the following during your online adventures?

http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20040226.html

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http://curtjames.com/

CoreyWhite wrote:

> It should be hard to just cut a small opening under the first layer of
> my skin and insert the ball myself. If I do it right I probably won't
> even bleed. And I know the hardest part is just going to be stitching
> my hand back up. But it probably will only need one or two stiches
> with such a small opening.
>
> Will let you all know how it goes. The idea isn't to create a spot on
> my hand that is visible. I'm just using the smallest possible pieces
> of magnetically safe metal. So a magnetic quarter will be able to rest
> on the back of my hand, where no one will be able to see it. So no one
> will be able to notice the magnetic implant either.

Just out of curiosity, how long have you been doing magic?

Cuz it's kind of a bonehead idea to do home surgery to implant a magnet
in your hand when you could have just glued it to your hand temporarily
and disguised it with makeup.

CoreyWhite did thus spake:

> Can anyone tell me if having a little 420 stainless steel implanted
> into my hand would cause any problems ordinary surgical steel wouldn't?
> Tattoo & piercing artists preform this kind of operation, so I could
> just talk to a local worker about it. But I want to get some other
> opinions.

Good luch handling your bank cards post-surgery...you know, with the
little MAGNETIC STRIP on the back...

:D

The funny thing is that I have heard of stranger ideas. Let us know
how it goes...if successful, we may have to re-name you "Tetsuo the
Iron Man" (a great movie in case you haven't seen it...).

-ph0ebus

Someday they will remove an eye just to be more extreme.


"Nyx" <waynenix@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've got this plan for a brain piercing. Right down the center, between
> the halves. Should be possible, I'm looking for someone willing to let
> me try it on them.
>
> Just think, you could be the first person in the world with a full
> brain piercing! I think it should be a capture beaded ring. Probably
> have to seal it with silicon or something to keep the juice from
> leaking out.
>
> But you would be famous! You could be in the Ripley's museum!
>
> Nyx
>

Norm³ wrote:

> Someday they will remove an eye just to be more extreme.

I believe that's already been done. Albeit not to be more extreme,
iirc.

(Googles)

"After being thwarted in a suicide attempt in a London hotel room, R&B
singer Houston gouged his own eye out. <snip> Houston attempted to jump
out of a 13th-floor hotel window but was stopped by his security
personnel, sources close to the singer said. He was moved to a lower
floor and locked in his room, where he injured himself." From:
http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/149.../houston.jhtml

Blecch!

re

"Nyx" <waynenix@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1165998716.074349.6590@j72g2000cwa.googlegrou ps.com...
> > I've got this plan for a brain piercing. Right down the center, between
> > the halves. Should be possible, I'm <snip>

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