Question regarding tongue piercing and dentures.....

So I went to get my tongue pierced today and when I told the guy I had
an upper plate, he told me he wouldn't do it because It would cause
all kinds of problems. Could someone tell me what those problems would
be?

I expected it to be annoying for awhile untill I got used to it but I
didnt think there would be any major obsticals to having it done. Does
anyone have any first or second hand experience with my situation?
Should I get it done somewhere else or just forget about it?

Thanks in advance for any advise!

Jon

Jon wrote:
> So I went to get my tongue pierced today and when I told the guy I had
> an upper plate, he told me he wouldn't do it because It would cause
> all kinds of problems. Could someone tell me what those problems would
> be?

Did you ask 'the guy?'


You can't get your tongue pierced because you are too stupid.

Besides, if you've done that much meth that you had to get an upper
plate, I think we all know what the problem is.

But on the positive side, at least you can spell tongue.

Kavin

On 5 Jan 2007 18:54:38 -0800, "KavinTaylor@gmail.com"
<KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Jon wrote:
>> So I went to get my tongue pierced today and when I told the guy I had
>> an upper plate, he told me he wouldn't do it because It would cause
>> all kinds of problems. Could someone tell me what those problems would
>> be?
>
>Did you ask 'the guy?'
>
>
>You can't get your tongue pierced because you are too stupid.
>
>Besides, if you've done that much meth that you had to get an upper
>plate, I think we all know what the problem is.
>
>But on the positive side, at least you can spell tongue.
>
>Kavin

Jon wrote:
> So I went to get my tongue pierced today
> and when I told the guy I had an upper plate,
> he told me he wouldn't do it because It would
> cause all kinds of problems. Could someone
> tell me what those problems would be?

I do believe "those problems," would amount only to "the guy" who told
you you he wouldn't pierce your tongue. Go to a different shop.

> I expected it to be annoying for awhile untill I got
> used to it but I didnt think there would be any major
> obsticals to having it done. Does anyone have any first
> or second hand experience with my situation?

I don't have any tongue piercing experience so far as in combination
with an upper plate goes, but I have had an upper partial plate and
have had my tongue pierced not once but twice. The piercings and the
upper plate were separated by decades of time, however. I currently
have a bridge. The only problem I had with my tongue piercings had
nothing whatsoever to do with my hard or upper palate and my
aforementioned partial plate, but was instead related to a very narrow
lower palate, imo.

> Should I get it done somewhere else

I'd say you should definitely at the very least ASK somewhere else.

> or just forget about it?

No way. Don't just forget about it. Go for it.

> Thanks in advance for any advise!

No problem. Please post a follow-up!

> Jon

--
Curt

Mr. Happy wrote:
[...]

> You can't get your tongue pierced because
> you are too stupid.
>
> Besides, if you've done that much meth that
> you had to get an upper plate, I think we all
> know what the problem is.
[...]

> Kavin

Well, Kavin, speaking as, "the only one who has a well funded and
informed opinion and knows how to express that opinion," at least
according to my friend Hans, I'd have to say that you're rude as well
as wrong. And I'll recommend that you stop leaning on the crutch of
_we_.

Just sayin'.

But, yes, as a wise woman once said, "Not holding my breath."

Regardless, I'm certain that not all RAB patrons subscribe to your
particular attitude.

--
Curt

Jon wrote:
> "KavinTaylor@gmail.com" wrote:
> >Jon wrote:
> >> So I went to get my tongue pierced today and when I told the guy I had
> >> an upper plate, he told me he wouldn't do it because It would cause
> >> all kinds of problems. Could someone tell me what those problems would
> >> be?
> >
> >Did you ask 'the guy?'
> >
> >
> >You can't get your tongue pierced because you are too stupid.
> >
> >Besides, if you've done that much meth that you had to get an upper
> >plate, I think we all know what the problem is.
> >
> >But on the positive side, at least you can spell tongue.
> >
> >Kavin

Jon, thanks for the attempt, but, no, Kavin's reply didn't read any
less asinine the second time around. No surprise, of course.

(NOTE TO LORI'S SON: WHAT I MEANT BY THAT IS THAT KAVIN'S POST WAS AND
CONTINUES TO BE ASININE! HTH!)

Hey, Jon, post a follow-up. Interested to hear what your next piercer
has to say about door number one.

Best of luck.

--
Curt

On 5 Jan 2007 19:26:58 -0800, "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

>Jon wrote:
>> "KavinTaylor@gmail.com" wrote:
>> >Jon wrote:
>> >> So I went to get my tongue pierced today and when I told the guy I had
>> >> an upper plate, he told me he wouldn't do it because It would cause
>> >> all kinds of problems. Could someone tell me what those problems would
>> >> be?
>> >
>> >Did you ask 'the guy?'
>> >
>> >
>> >You can't get your tongue pierced because you are too stupid.
>> >
>> >Besides, if you've done that much meth that you had to get an upper
>> >plate, I think we all know what the problem is.
>> >
>> >But on the positive side, at least you can spell tongue.
>> >
>> >Kavin
>
>Jon, thanks for the attempt, but, no, Kavin's reply didn't read any
>less asinine the second time around. No surprise, of course.
>
>(NOTE TO LORI'S SON: WHAT I MEANT BY THAT IS THAT KAVIN'S POST WAS AND
>CONTINUES TO BE ASININE! HTH!)
>
>Hey, Jon, post a follow-up. Interested to hear what your next piercer
>has to say about door number one.
>
>Best of luck.
>

Thanks for the advice. I'm going to go to another next chance I get
and I'll let you know how it goes.

Curt wrote:
>And I'll recommend that you stop leaning on the crutch of
> _we_.

Once again, you misuse the term. Not surprising, though.

Why did you leave out the true point of my post? Can't handle it, can
you?

Why didn't Jon ask what the problems would be? Why are you supporting
him?

Found yourself a new Hans in Jon?

> I'm certain that not all RAB patrons subscribe to your
> particular attitude.

More than will ever subscribe to yours.

And we all know THAT is true.

Kavin

Jon wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
[...]

> > Hey, Jon, post a follow-up. Interested to hear
> > what your next piercer has to say <snip>
> >
> >Best of luck.
>
> Thanks <snip>.

You're welcome, of course.

> I'm going to go to another next chance I get and
> I'll let you know how it goes.

And thank you, Jon, for using RAB as a viable source of timely
information. ;o) Again, Best of luck. There may be valid reasons you
cannot get your tongue pierced, but I doubt very much that an upper
plate is one of them.

A quick Google of the search string _dentures and tongue piercing_
offers:

"The most common dental problem is the damage to teeth and gums that is
caused by the metal jewelry. The metal can cause teeth to chip or
fillings to break. Teeth may become sensitive if a person develops the
habit of biting on the metal jewelry in one area of the mouth. This can
result in one or more teeth needing root canal therapy. A local or
systemic infection is also a possibility. The human mouth is a cesspool
of bacteria, and even if instruments are sterilized, a person who has
this procedure may still develop an infection. In some cases, patients
have had allergic reactions to the metal jewelry. Also, if the jewelry
becomes loose it may be swallowed or, even worse, aspirated.

A recent study published in the Journal of Periodontology found that
extended wear of tongue jewelry (barbell-type) could increase one's
chance of gum recession and tooth chipping. Researchers from Loma Linda
University School of Dentistry and Ohio State University College of
Dentistry examined and surveyed 52 young adults with pierced tongues.
They found gum recession in 35 percent of subjects with pierced tongues
for four or more years, and in 50 percent wearing long-stemmed barbells
for two or more years. During tongue movement, long-stem barbells are
more likely to reach and damage the gums than short barbells. Over
time, this damage may cause the gums to recede, which can lead to more
serious dental/oral complications." From:
http://tweensandteensnews.com/archiv...uePiercing.php

Also do you smoke or have any history of heart defects, heart murmurs,
rheumatic fever or mitral valve prolapse? See the above article via
that URL for more info. Fwiw, I've never read anything in the newspaper
about someone dropping over from a tongue piercing. Seems likely that
it's happened, but, hey, people slip and fall in the shower. SOMETHING
is almost assuredly going to lead to your demise. Will it be old age in
your sleep or will it be that family of rabid squirrels cornering you
on Elm Street? Who knows?

Say again? You think I'm kidding? It's well documented:

http://www.google.com/search?q=killer+squirrels

Otoh, not all squirrels follow the dark path! http://www.squirrels.org/


What's that noise? The sound of scratching on my front door? Gotta run,
Jon, it's the bad squirrels!

--
Curt

Curt wrote:
> Jon wrote:
J> > Thanks in advance for any advise!
>
C> No problem. Please post a follow-up!

What's the word? Capricious?


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt wrote:

> > And I'll recommend that you stop leaning
> > on the crutch of _we_.
>
> Once again, you misuse the term.

And what term would that be? Lean, crutch, we? Um, my 16-year-old son
doesn't understand you, Kavin.

[...]

> Why did you leave out the true point of my post?

True point? That's like asking for the true point on a marble.

> Can't handle it, can you?

You're Jack Nicholson's character in _A Few Good Men_ now?

> Why didn't Jon ask what the problems would be?

Gee, Kav, exactly how should he have phrased his question? Because,
hey, from my obviously limited perspective, well, "Could someone tell
me what those problems would
be?" sounds like a reasonable way to, yes, "ask what the problems would
be." D'OH!

Or did you mean to type, "Why DID Jon ask what the problems would be?"

> Why are you supporting him?

I'd characterize it as replying to his post in a positive enough manner
rather than in your typical rudely idiotic manner. Hth.

> Found yourself a new Hans in Jon?

Whatever.

> > I'm certain that not all RAB patrons subscribe to your
> > particular attitude.
>
> More than will ever subscribe to yours.

Sadly, lurkers don't often participate in polls. Lurkers are often
reasonable people. And, no, while I certainly don't have a list of
thousands, not hundreds, probably not even tens of
RABbits/lurkers/newsgroup patrons who have written me in support, well,
there have been, I'd say, a handful at least. A handful of people who
have said, something like, I like your posts and that you don't shy
away from whatever.

Regardless, my attitude is just fine.

As always, I post and reply as I see fit. We differ, obviously, on just
what is fit. I don't think your comments are fit, reasonable, called
for, what have you. To wit:

"You can't get your tongue pierced because you are too stupid."

Remember that? Yeah, THAT's fit.

"Besides, if you've done that much meth that you had to get an upper
plate, I think we all know what the problem is."

How 'bout that? Absolutely reasonable. Yup, no doubt. Duh.

"But on the positive side, at least you can spell tongue."

Or that? Sure, called for, definitely. Typos are your specialty after
all. And everyone loves the speeling flam. It am cool. Just like you,
Kavvy.

> And we all know THAT is true.

Stick to I sentences. Or clearly define we.

> Kavin

--
Curt

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> Curt wrote:
[...]

> C> No problem. Please post a follow-up!
>
> What's the word? Capricious?

No, but I applaud the effort you put forth.

It's spelled K-a-v-'s p-r-e-c-i-o-u-s.

I do so love how you dote on me. ;o)

> Kavin

--
Curt

Thanks again Curt. Just got back from the shop (Paragon, in
Duncansville PA.) I talked it over with the insanely beautiful
piercing person and got it done. It feels great right now. A little
sore, but not much swelling yet. The barbells annoying as hell, but I
can tell that it'll be cool once I can put something smaller in.
Actually, Its gotten a little more sore as I'm typing this post. :)
The coffee and smokes probably aren't the best thing for it but
hey......

At the risk of feeding the troll, So yeah, I went through a meth phase
in the early 80s, like ''84-ish, and lived pretty much on Ramen
Noodles while working 80 hours a week at the time, and yeah, it fucked
up my teeth. SO? In '84 I was pretty sure Reagan was going to get our
asses nuked so I didn't really think about the future. Besides. I had
a blast :D Man, I miss those days of sex drugs and punk rock, but hey,
those were different times. I was all grown up and responsible by '87
or so and, shit, I was responsible even when I was all fucked up. In
fact I was doing the crank so I could work all the time. I was kind of
like that guy in the old anti-cocaine commercial....I gotta work more
so I can buy more coke so I can work more so I can buy more coke...
except crank was really really cheap.

But anyway.....the reason I didn't ask the guy at the other shop was
because, I really didn't think of it, and besides, I'm not going to
stand there and tell some big biker type dude he's wrong. That's what
places like this here newsgroup are for.

Jon


On 6 Jan 2007 08:28:56 -0800, "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:

>Kavin Taylor wrote:
>> Curt wrote:
>
>> > And I'll recommend that you stop leaning
>> > on the crutch of _we_.
>>
>> Once again, you misuse the term.
>
>And what term would that be? Lean, crutch, we? Um, my 16-year-old son
>doesn't understand you, Kavin.
>
>[...]
>
>> Why did you leave out the true point of my post?
>
>True point? That's like asking for the true point on a marble.
>
>> Can't handle it, can you?
>
>You're Jack Nicholson's character in _A Few Good Men_ now?
>
>> Why didn't Jon ask what the problems would be?
>
>Gee, Kav, exactly how should he have phrased his question? Because,
>hey, from my obviously limited perspective, well, "Could someone tell
>me what those problems would
>be?" sounds like a reasonable way to, yes, "ask what the problems would
>be." D'OH!
>
>Or did you mean to type, "Why DID Jon ask what the problems would be?"
>
>> Why are you supporting him?
>
>I'd characterize it as replying to his post in a positive enough manner
>rather than in your typical rudely idiotic manner. Hth.
>
>> Found yourself a new Hans in Jon?
>
>Whatever.
>
>> > I'm certain that not all RAB patrons subscribe to your
>> > particular attitude.
>>
>> More than will ever subscribe to yours.
>
>Sadly, lurkers don't often participate in polls. Lurkers are often
>reasonable people. And, no, while I certainly don't have a list of
>thousands, not hundreds, probably not even tens of
>RABbits/lurkers/newsgroup patrons who have written me in support, well,
>there have been, I'd say, a handful at least. A handful of people who
>have said, something like, I like your posts and that you don't shy
>away from whatever.
>
>Regardless, my attitude is just fine.
>
>As always, I post and reply as I see fit. We differ, obviously, on just
>what is fit. I don't think your comments are fit, reasonable, called
>for, what have you. To wit:
>
>"You can't get your tongue pierced because you are too stupid."
>
>Remember that? Yeah, THAT's fit.
>
>"Besides, if you've done that much meth that you had to get an upper
>plate, I think we all know what the problem is."
>
>How 'bout that? Absolutely reasonable. Yup, no doubt. Duh.
>
>"But on the positive side, at least you can spell tongue."
>
>Or that? Sure, called for, definitely. Typos are your specialty after
>all. And everyone loves the speeling flam. It am cool. Just like you,
>Kavvy.
>
>> And we all know THAT is true.
>
>Stick to I sentences. Or clearly define we.
>
>> Kavin
>

Jon wrote:

> Thanks again Curt.

Any time.

> Just got back from the shop (Paragon, in Duncansville PA.)
> I talked it over with the insanely beautiful piercing person and
> got it done.

Insanely beautiful sounds like you were in the right place. Glad to
hear you got it done, Jon.

> It feels great right now. A little sore, but not much swelling yet.
> The barbells annoying as hell, but I can tell that it'll be cool
> once I can put something smaller in.

Excellent on everything but the "annoying as hell" part.

> Actually, Its gotten a little more sore as I'm typing this post. :)
> The coffee and smokes probably aren't the best thing for it but
> hey......

The aftercare sheet I remember offered that you should gargle after
every smoke. You ever hear of Biotene <http://www.biotene.com/>? It's
alcohol-free which makes it less likely to dry out your tongue and
mouth. That's going to make the healing process a lot less painful,
ime.

> At the risk of feeding the troll,

One man's troll is another man's friend, imo. In fact, to call another
man a troll is just another way to avoid facing the fact that there
will always be a differing opinion or viewpoint. It's so much easier to
think you're right and the other guy is simply some troll.

Anyway.

> So yeah, I went through a meth phase in the early 80s, like ''84-ish,
> and lived pretty much on Ramen Noodles while working 80 hours
> a week at the time, and yeah, it fucked up my teeth. SO?

I've worked plenty of 80-hour weeks, but my teeth are bad from Cap'n
Crunch and losing a playground fight to a jungle gym in 3rd grade. ;o)

> In '84 I was pretty sure Reagan was going to get our asses nuked
> so I didn't really think about the future. Besides. I had a blast :D

In '84 I was in the U.S. Navy and Reagan had me feeling mighty secure.
All those "enemy" countries had the same thought you subscribed to.
Kindasorta. They mostly thought he wasn't afraid in the least of nuking
THEIR asses. And, yeah, I had a blast, too.

> Man, I miss those days of sex drugs and punk rock, but hey, those
> were different times. I was all grown up and responsible by '87 or
> so and, shit, I was responsible even when I was all fucked up. In
> fact I was doing the crank so I could work all the time. I was kind of
> like that guy in the old anti-cocaine commercial....I gotta work more
> so I can buy more coke so I can work more so I can buy more coke...
> except crank was really really cheap.

No experience with crank at all.

> But anyway.....the reason I didn't ask the guy at the other shop was
> because, I really didn't think of it, and besides, I'm not going to
> stand there and tell some big biker type dude he's wrong.

Probably not a bad decision. ;o)

> That's what places like this here newsgroup are for.

Absolutely.

> Jon

re

> On 6 Jan 2007 08:28:56 -0800, "Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Kavin Taylor wrote:
> >> Curt wrote:
> >
> >> > And I'll recommend that you stop leaning
> >> > on the crutch of _we_.
> >>
> >> Once again, you misuse the term.
> >
> >And what term would that be? Lean, crutch, we? Um, my 16-year-old son
> >doesn't understand you, Kavin.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >> Why did you leave out the true point of my post?
> >
> >True point? That's like asking for the true point on a marble.
> >
> >> Can't handle it, can you?
> >
> >You're Jack Nicholson's character in _A Few Good Men_ now?
> >
> >> Why didn't Jon ask what the problems would be?
> >
> >Gee, Kav, exactly how should he have phrased his question? Because,
> >hey, from my obviously limited perspective, well, "Could someone tell
> >me what those problems would
> >be?" sounds like a reasonable way to, yes, "ask what the problems would
> >be." D'OH!
> >
> >Or did you mean to type, "Why DID Jon ask what the problems would be?"
> >
> >> Why are you supporting him?
> >
> >I'd characterize it as replying to his post in a positive enough manner
> >rather than in your typical rudely idiotic manner. Hth.
> >
> >> Found yourself a new Hans in Jon?
> >
> >Whatever.
> >
> >> > I'm certain that not all RAB patrons subscribe to your
> >> > particular attitude.
> >>
> >> More than will ever subscribe to yours.
> >
> >Sadly, lurkers don't often participate in polls. Lurkers are often
> >reasonable people. And, no, while I certainly don't have a list of
> >thousands, not hundreds, probably not even tens of
> >RABbits/lurkers/newsgroup patrons who have written me in support, well,
> >there have been, I'd say, a handful at least. A handful of people who
> >have said, something like, I like your posts and that you don't shy
> >away from whatever.
> >
> >Regardless, my attitude is just fine.
> >
> >As always, I post and reply as I see fit. We differ, obviously, on just
> >what is fit. I don't think your comments are fit, reasonable, called
> >for, what have you. To wit:
> >
> >"You can't get your tongue pierced because you are too stupid."
> >
> >Remember that? Yeah, THAT's fit.
> >
> >"Besides, if you've done that much meth that you had to get an upper
> >plate, I think we all know what the problem is."
> >
> >How 'bout that? Absolutely reasonable. Yup, no doubt. Duh.
> >
> >"But on the positive side, at least you can spell tongue."
> >
> >Or that? Sure, called for, definitely. Typos are your specialty after
> >all. And everyone loves the speeling flam. It am cool. Just like you,
> >Kavvy.
> >
> >> And we all know THAT is true.
> >
> >Stick to I sentences. Or clearly define we.
> >
> >> Kavin

--
Curt

I scribbled:
> Jon wrote:
[...]
> > At the risk of feeding the troll,
>
> One man's troll is another man's friend, imo. In fact, to call another
> man a troll is just another way to avoid facing the fact that there
> will always be a differing opinion or viewpoint. It's so much easier to
> think you're right and the other guy is simply some troll.
>
> Anyway.

[...]

Uh, although I don't care for the troll nickname, having been called
one myself here and there, I have no problem with calling someone an
asshole. 'specially if they deserve being called one. Kavin almost
does, imo. ;o)

Wishing you a speedy healing for your new piercing, Jon. They got ice
pops in your neck of the woods? Might help.

--
Curt