What do you think?

LC <LC@fakemail.com> wrote:

>I had my nose pierced approximately 34 hours ago, my first
>piercing. Before I went I did some research online, looked
>at many nostril piercing pics and read about correct
>placement. Based on that I had a good idea where I wanted
>the piercing placed.
>
>When I got to the studio my piercer chose a placement then
>showed it to me and asked how I felt about it. I told him I
>thought it looked too close to the face and I'd feel more
>comfortable putting it a couple more millimeters to the
>front. He said he didn't think it was too close and it
>should stay where it was.
>In the end I let him do what he wanted.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
!!!!?

Arrrgh...

(rolls on floor in pain)

You what? Oh, dear.

[...]

>pics can be seen at:
>http://notsatisfiedwithmypiercing.blogspot.com/

heh

I like the first pic. The scrunched up look is cute. And I honestly
don't think the position looks bad at all. Still, you should've walked
if the guy didn't offer a more persuasive argument than "he didn't
think it was too close and it should stay where it was."

Not good enough. No. You should've asked "Why?" And if he failed to
offer something reasonable in reply then walked the fuck out, imo.

>Any advice or thoughts you have are greatly appreciated.
>Thanks in advance.

Oops. I jumped the gun.

Please post a follow-up.

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http://curtjames.com/

LC <LC@fakemail.com> wrote:

[...]

re interviewing the piercer

>I did. We spoke at length and he didn't have a problem with
>me, or I with him.

Then why did you let the piercer do what *he* wanted?

>My problem is with myself.

With good reason. :o(

Still, it looks fine.

[...]

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Curt

Kavin Taylor wrote:

[...]

>People like you are their nightmares.

You'd be a nightmare if I feared dreaming about bitchy and disgruntled
jerks.

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Curt
http://curtjames.com/

N Jill Marsh schrieb:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:53:32 +0200, LC <LC@fakemail.com>wrote:
>
>> N Jill Marsh schrieb:
>>> Don't assume anything from a picture you see on BME, other than
>>> someone got pierced and had a picture taken. BME is a fine resource,
>>> but it's usually just as good for what not to do as it shows what is
>>> the ideal, or more so.
>> Hm, didn't know that. Could you point me toward a reliable
>> resource for piercing info? What I've read so far is
>> conflicting. For example, there are people who'll tell you
>> to move the jewelry and those who say not to touch it.
>> Different opinions on healing times. Ditto when the jewelry
>> can be replaced. It goes on and on. Is there one
>> comprehensive, reliable source of information out there or
>> only conflicting opinions based on personal experience?
>
> No, and no, yes and both. There's no one right way to do most things,
> and that includes listening to your body and determining what's right
> for you. I would say that the current general attitude is to leave
> well enough alone, but that's purely my impression, and my bias
> because that's how I heal any injury.
>
> Lish has a good piercing healing text up - she posted a new link to it
> recently - take a look for it.
>
> In general:
>
> You can touch and move the jewelry unless it's better to leave it
> alone. It will take as long to heal the piercing as it the piercing
> takes to heal. The jewelry can be replaced when it's ready to be
> replaced, but maybe a little before, though after is also good.
>
> Hope that helps - educate yourself, think about how you live and work,
> how you heal, what you're like, etc, and choose the methods and
> guidelines that work best for you. Rubbing cat shit on a healing
> piercing is almost always not recommended, as is hanging wicker
> laundry baskets on them.


I see what you mean. :)

Curt James schrieb:
> LC <LC@fakemail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> re interviewing the piercer
>
>> I did. We spoke at length and he didn't have a problem with
>> me, or I with him.
>
> Then why did you let the piercer do what *he* wanted?


In short, confidence in his abilities.

In long, before I decided to do it I scouted around online
and found a piercer who belonged to an organization which
educates and regulates the profession where I live. I went
to this organization's online site and read their
guidelines, what my piercer was required to know and do to
be a member, what seminars and training he's received, etc.
This gave me confidence in his abilities.

When I arrived at the studio I spoke to him at length about
what we were about to do. I liked his manner and attitude
and he treated me with respect.

The part I got stuck on, I see in hindsight, was not this
man's ability or opinion, but my inexperience. I came home,
let it sit for a day, started happily looking online again
at the pics and reading up on everything I could find when I
noticed "hey, my piercing location looks a tad different
from the majority of what I'm seeing here", and I freaked a
little and needed to be reassured everything was okay. I
don't have anyone in real life to compare to or ask.


>> My problem is with myself.
>
> With good reason. :o(


With good reason? Could you explain that a bit? Forest for
the trees again.


> Still, it looks fine.


Great. I'm all good then.

Hans van Eynsbergen schrieb:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:49:05 +0200, LC, while still wondering about
> life, the Universe and everything else, posted this tasty tidbit :
>> I had my nose pierced < me snips excellent post >
>
> Just my 2 cents.
> I think the piercing looks great.
> Absolutely nothing wrong with it !
> I would not change a thing.
> Again, just my 2 cents !


Great! Thank you. :)

Curt James schrieb:
> LC <LC@fakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had my nose pierced approximately 34 hours ago, my first
>> piercing. Before I went I did some research online, looked
>> at many nostril piercing pics and read about correct
>> placement. Based on that I had a good idea where I wanted
>> the piercing placed.
>>
>> When I got to the studio my piercer chose a placement then
>> showed it to me and asked how I felt about it. I told him I
>> thought it looked too close to the face and I'd feel more
>> comfortable putting it a couple more millimeters to the
>> front. He said he didn't think it was too close and it
>> should stay where it was.
>> In the end I let him do what he wanted.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> !!!!?
>
> Arrrgh...
>
> (rolls on floor in pain)
>
> You what? Oh, dear.
>
> [...]
>
>> pics can be seen at:
>> http://notsatisfiedwithmypiercing.blogspot.com/
>
> heh
>
> I like the first pic. The scrunched up look is cute. And I honestly
> don't think the position looks bad at all. Still, you should've walked
> if the guy didn't offer a more persuasive argument than "he didn't
> think it was too close and it should stay where it was."
>
> Not good enough. No. You should've asked "Why?" And if he failed to
> offer something reasonable in reply then walked the fuck out, imo.


It might be helpful at this time to point out we were
speaking to each other in two languages. Both of us were
doing our best. His not explaining didn't make him
negligent, it was the language barrier. What he made
understood to me was that he was certain in his own opinion
the piercing would look best placed where it was. I trusted
he wouldn't ruin his own reputation by giving me a bad
experience. Plus he didn't have it seated on my eyelid or
anything. But then, he's just human.

So when I wasn't certain after it was done, I questioned.
And like I said before, thank goodness for you guys or the
situation would've gotten ugly as a result of my ignorance.
What an insult to my piercer and myself to have had a
perfectly good piercing removed because I'm too dumb to know
better!


>> Any advice or thoughts you have are greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks in advance.
>
> Oops. I jumped the gun.
>
> Please post a follow-up.


I'm leaving it. I'm calmer now I've gotten some feedback
from people who're knowledgeable. I'm concerned about the
dimpling Kavin saw and will ask about it when I go back in
for the control. It doesn't feel bad but the ball of the
stud is sitting in contact with the skin. I don't know if
the bar is supposed to have enough length to move out at the
top and stay out - it doesn't - but it's also not tight. I
don't know if this has anything to do with the slight
swelling I'm experiencing and will go away on its own.
Questions, questions.

LC wrote:

I scribbled:

re LC and her piercer

> > Then why did you let the piercer do what *he* wanted?
>
> In short, confidence in his abilities.

Cool. Very good. And I adore your dual condensed/book-length reply
scenario action. I love options. Sweet. :o)

> In long, before I decided to do it I scouted around online
> and found a piercer who belonged to an organization which
> educates and regulates the profession where I live. I went
> to this organization's online site and read their
> guidelines, what my piercer was required to know and do to
> be a member, what seminars and training he's received, etc.
> This gave me confidence in his abilities.
>
> When I arrived at the studio I spoke to him at length about
> what we were about to do. I liked his manner and attitude
> and he treated me with respect.
>
> The part I got stuck on, I see in hindsight, was not this
> man's ability or opinion, but my inexperience. I came home,
> let it sit for a day, started happily looking online again
> at the pics and reading up on everything I could find when I
> noticed "hey, my piercing location looks a tad different
> from the majority of what I'm seeing here", and I freaked a
> little and needed to be reassured everything was okay. I
> don't have anyone in real life to compare to or ask.

Second-guessing is human nature, I suspect. ESPECIALLY if, like you
offer, there's no basis for comparison.

> >> My problem is with myself.
> >
> > With good reason. :o(
>
> With good reason? Could you explain that a bit?

Yes, of course. No offense was meant. Initially the whole "I told him I
thought it looked too close to the face and I'd feel more comfortable
putting it a couple more millimeters to the front. He said he didn't
think it was too close and it should stay where it was. In the end I
let him do what he wanted." section of your post made me uncomfortable,
but having read your follow-up I have new perspective on what actually
took place versus what I *imagined* took place.

"It might be helpful at this time to point out we were speaking to each
other in two languages. Both of us were doing our best. His not
explaining didn't make him
negligent, it was the language barrier. What he made understood to me
was that he was certain in his own opinion the piercing would look best
placed where it was. I trusted he wouldn't ruin his own reputation by
giving me a bad experience." sounds a LOT better than "In the end I let
him do what he wanted."

The latter had my *no means no* and If You're Uncomfortable With A
Mod/Piercer/Artist Then Leave klaxons going off. THAT's what I meant by
"With good reason." I thought something like, "Good grief, she was
unsure of the position, but let the piercer do what he wanted in spite
of her protests???"

My reaction - obviously - was exaggerated, apparently, but I saw it
almost as if you'd asked for horizontal nipple piercings and the
piercer said that vertical would be better. (Don't worry for me,
however, I really *can* tell the difference between a nose and a
nipple. ;o))

What truly matters is that you have new perspective on your piercing
and are at peace with your placement (I noticed that your Blogger page
is no longe there). Again, I'll echo the other RABbits' comments that
it looks great. Looking forward to any follow-ups. Welcome to
rec.arts.bodyart, LC.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Curt James schrieb:
> LC wrote:
>
> I scribbled:
>
> re LC and her piercer
>
>>> Then why did you let the piercer do what *he* wanted?
>> In short, confidence in his abilities.
>
> Cool. Very good. And I adore your dual condensed/book-length reply
> scenario action. I love options. Sweet. :o)


Thankya.


<snipped>
> Second-guessing is human nature, I suspect. ESPECIALLY if, like you
> offer, there's no basis for comparison.


Thanks also for understanding. I spent the morning looking
at the instructions(?) on Lish's compunction.org (excellent
stuff) as well as scanning the posts in r.a.b. and some of
the sites I found linked. There is a whole culture here I
don't understand, have never seen other than the occasional
sideways glance (of admiration and partly fear) which I feel
a tiny part of but never experienced. I get the feeling
being new to... well, just about everything, I won't be
tolerated very well.

Any advice on how to hang inconspicuously on the edge while
I learn and not get in the way? Silence is golden and the
path to enlightenment? I mean, there was a whole section on
how annoying n00bs are.


>>>> My problem is with myself.
>>> With good reason. :o(
>> With good reason? Could you explain that a bit?
>
> Yes, of course. No offense was meant. Initially the whole "I told him I
> thought it looked too close to the face and I'd feel more comfortable
> putting it a couple more millimeters to the front. He said he didn't
> think it was too close and it should stay where it was. In the end I
> let him do what he wanted." section of your post made me uncomfortable,
> but having read your follow-up I have new perspective on what actually
> took place versus what I *imagined* took place.
>
> "It might be helpful at this time to point out we were speaking to each
> other in two languages. Both of us were doing our best. His not
> explaining didn't make him
> negligent, it was the language barrier. What he made understood to me
> was that he was certain in his own opinion the piercing would look best
> placed where it was. I trusted he wouldn't ruin his own reputation by
> giving me a bad experience." sounds a LOT better than "In the end I let
> him do what he wanted."
>
> The latter had my *no means no* and If You're Uncomfortable With A
> Mod/Piercer/Artist Then Leave klaxons going off. THAT's what I meant by
> "With good reason." I thought something like, "Good grief, she was
> unsure of the position, but let the piercer do what he wanted in spite
> of her protests???"
>
> My reaction - obviously - was exaggerated, apparently, but I saw it
> almost as if you'd asked for horizontal nipple piercings and the
> piercer said that vertical would be better. (Don't worry for me,
> however, I really *can* tell the difference between a nose and a
> nipple. ;o))


Understandable. You were working with the info you had.
Like you've seen I can write short novels but I never really
know how much someone wants to hear in detail, so... you get
the picture.

(I sure *hope* you can tell the difference between a nose
and a nipple because as far as I know there isn't a big
market for nose-sucking ;) a highly misunderstood talent,
I'm sure)


> What truly matters is that you have new perspective on your piercing
> and are at peace with your placement (I noticed that your Blogger page
> is no longe there). Again, I'll echo the other RABbits' comments that
> it looks great. Looking forward to any follow-ups. Welcome to
> rec.arts.bodyart, LC.


Thanks a third time for the welcome. Peace is good. :)

LC wrote:

[...]

> Any advice on how to hang inconspicuously on the edge while
> I learn and not get in the way?

?!

Inconspicuously?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...rch+this+group
aka http://tinyurl.com/hyfvh

I'm not very good at inconspicuously, LC. Sorry.

And what is this thing "not get in the way?" of which you speak?
Curious.

[...]

> Thanks a third time for the welcome. Peace is good. :)

Peace is indeed good, however there's a lot to be said for war.

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

Curt James schrieb:
> LC wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Any advice on how to hang inconspicuously on the edge while
>> I learn and not get in the way?
>
> ?!
>
> Inconspicuously?
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...rch+this+group
> aka http://tinyurl.com/hyfvh
>
> I'm not very good at inconspicuously, LC. Sorry.
>
> And what is this thing "not get in the way?" of which you speak?
> Curious.
>
> [...]


Six thousand eight hundred, huh. Yeah, I asked the wrong
person.

"not get in the way" = ... not go around with my foot in my
mouth consistently. Hard to walk/talk that way. Forget it.
I think it's inevitable.