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This is a piercing that I'm very happy with. I've had it for years now
and it has not grown out at all. The piercing did hurt like a bitch but was well worth it. I've read that it is the most painful piercing, at least with males (not sure about ampallang though). Just streched it a bit to fit a 12G straigh barbell (surgical steel). I ordered it from painfulpleasures.com, which seems to be a good shop for piercing and tattoo. A few hints... Make sure the piercing is deep enough, well through the areola, not through the base of the nipple, since the male nipple is too small for this. My first one was not deep enough, never healed and grew out. Now the nipple is somewhat larger due to scarring and I had the other nipple pierced, only deeper. It has not grown out at all for years. During healing the piercing will probably migrate out a little and then settle in the ringh place, if it's done deep enough in the first place. My piercing is 12mm long (half inch). The piercing and initial jewelry should not be smaller than 14G, otherwise it very well might grow out and migrate. A large diameter ring is probably best, as it is easy to clean. After it has healed you can use a straight barbell. You can stretch it as well to fit a bigger jewelry. Make sure you are sitting and/or standing in a relaxed normal position as the piercing is marked, so the positioning will be right (ie. horizontal or vertical). I personally like vertical way more. Do take care of the piercing during healing. Always wash your hands with desinfectant liquid soap before touching the piercing. Soak the piercing with a cup of hot water and sea salt to loosen the jewelry (crusting). Wash with desinfectant liquid soap (surgical soap). Spray with a desinfectant spray (not too strong). Put on some antibacterial cream so it won't dry. Slap on a bandage to protect and immobilize the piercing in between washes. I personally will wash only once per day, at every evening. Too much washing will irritate and dry the piercing and it will take longer to heal. Give your body time to heal itself. It will take at least a month and after that there vwill still be "tubing". It's probably truly healed after six months or so. My nipple was more sensitive during healing, but not anymore. |
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On Feb 16, 8:12 am, "ari" <ari.lehtini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is a piercing that I'm very happy with. <snip> A true de-lurk would have been better before coming in and giving bad advice. Okay, about your nipple. 14 gauge is too small. 12 gauge is still too small. Starting at ten, 8 or 6 would have been a better idea. Ti jewelry is so much better. At least you are using barbells. LITHA or LIMA are the preferred healing methods. Kavin |
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On 16 helmi, 16:07, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote: > On Feb 16, 8:12 am, "ari" <ari.lehtini...@gmail.com> wrote:> This is a piercing that I'm very happy with. > > <snip> > > A true de-lurk would have been better before coming in and giving bad > advice. If you do not agree, it does not mean that it's wrong ("your mileage may vary"). But, perhaps you are one of those people that are always right. Good for you. And if some advice is bad, it does not mean that all advice is bad. > 14 gauge is too small. 12 gauge is still too small. Simply put: no > Starting at ten, 8 or 6 would have been a better idea. Yeah, if you are a true hardcore masochist, medieval style. Very few are. Nothing wrong with 14Ga. If it does migrate and/or grow out, it is badly placed or you body simply rejects it, in which case a 6Ga will grow out as well. > Ti jewelry is so much better. At least you are using barbells. Titanium could be better, but surgical steel works just fine. Barbells are good for nipples, yes. > LITHA or LIMA are the preferred healing methods. "leave it the hell alone" is rather good. The method I mentioned worked fine and is sort of a middle ground. At least do not clean it twice daily. |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "ari" wrote: > This is a piercing that I'm very happy with. > > <snip> > > A true de-lurk would have been better left stand on its own than to be criticized immediately by someone who spends an inordinate amount of time being grumpy and pissy. > before coming in and giving bad advice. Anecdotal, but not necessarily bad. > Okay, about your nipple. > > 14 gauge is too small. 12 gauge is still too > small. For everyone on the planet, Kavvy? Loooove them blanket statements. [...] > LITHA or LIMA are the preferred healing > methods. Think of that on your own? > Kavin -- Curt |
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> "Kavin Talor wrote: > "ari" wrote: > This is a piercing that I'm very happy with. > > > <snip> > > > A true de-lurk would have been better before > > coming in and giving bad advice. > > If you do not agree, it does not mean that it's > wrong ("your mileage may vary"). But, perhaps > you are one of those people that are always > right. Not sure if he thinks he's always right, but he's apparently "one of those people that are always" grumpy. ;o) > Good for you. True. > And if some advice is bad, it does not mean > that all advice is bad. Is this a conversation about good versus bad? Because Kavvy looooves those! > > 14 gauge is too small. 12 gauge is still too > > small. > > Simply put: no > > > Starting at ten, 8 or 6 would have been a > > better idea. > > Yeah, if you are a true hardcore masochist, > medieval style. Very few are. Nothing wrong with > 14Ga. If it does migrate and/or grow out, it > is badly placed or you body simply rejects it, > in which case a 6Ga will grow out as well. I think it would be variable or dependent on each individual and, yes, the placement as you've mentioned. Iirc, I started at 12 gauge and stretched to 8 gauge eventually. No problems at all. One was placed deeper than the other, if only slightly, but there was no significant migration. > > Ti jewelry is so much better. At least you > > are using barbells. > > Titanium could be better, but surgical steel > works just fine. Barbells are good for nipples, > yes. I suspect that's all opinion based on individual experience. Regardless, it's nice to read an exchange related to bodyart. > > LITHA or LIMA are the preferred healing > > methods. > > "leave it the hell alone" is rather good. The > method I mentioned worked fine and is sort of > a middle ground. At least do not clean it > twice daily. Cool. -- Curt |
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On Feb 16, 11:11 am, "A" <ari.lehtini...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16 helmi, 16:07, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com> KT> > A true de-lurk would have been better before coming in and giving bad KT> > advice. > A> If you do not agree, it does not mean that it's wrong ("your mileage A> may vary"). But, perhaps you are one of those people that are always A> right. Good for you. And if some advice is bad, it does not mean that A> all advice is bad. No, I was pointing out "WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?" And your advice is bad. The fact that Curt agrees with you is even further proof. Do you see anyone else coming to your defense? But keep it up. You can join the list that includes Hans, modified heart, radio, etc. It's your choice. > KT> > 14 gauge is too small. 12 gauge is still too small. A> Simply put: no Simply put, you are wrong. If you are going to stretch from 14 to 12, and, oh my god!, what a stretch, You should have started at 12. But even for males, 12 is too small. You keep talking about migration. The reason yours migrate is the small gauge. Plain and simple. Again, let Curt be your guide. Ask him his failure (he'll say retirement-- what shit!) to success ratio. Yeah, it's impressive. KT> > Starting at ten, 8 or 6 would have been a better idea. > A> Yeah, if you are a true hardcore masochist, medieval style. Very few A> are. Sorry, then you don't understand how a cannula works. Or perhaps your piercer is using hypo needles. > Nothing wrong with 14Ga. If it does migrate and/or grow out, it > is badly placed or you body simply rejects it, in which case a 6Ga > will grow out as well. Maybe if you are using stainless steel. But no, you don't understand. But fine, your nipples. I'll bet my double pierced nipples against yours any day. Or any of the 40-something others I have. Again. listen to Curt. He's always right. KT> > Ti jewelry is so much better. At least you are using barbells. > A> Titanium could be better, but surgical steel works just fine. Barbells A> are good for nipples, yes. No, Ti is better. As is platinum. kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "A" wrote: > > "KavinTay...@gmail.com" > > KT> > A true de-lurk would have been be<snip> > > A> If you do not agree, it does not mean that > A> it's wrong ("your mileage may va<snip> > > No, I was pointing out "WHO THE FUCK > ARE YOU?" Like you care. Like you're interested. Mr. Shoelaces, is it? Goooooo Kavvy! RAB's welcoming committee of one. > And your advice is bad. Anecdotal, but not necessarily bad. > The fact that Curt agrees with you is even > further proof. Of what? That his story was incorrect? That his opinion and experience is to be disregarded? > Do you see anyone else coming to your > defense? And do you see anyone else complaining? Give it a REST, Kavvy. Yeesh. Wah wah wah wah waaaah! All the time. > But keep it up. You can join the list that includes Hans, modified heart, radio, etc. And what of that list? What are you indicating? How would you characterize those posters? Hmmm? ;o) Remember words you recently posted before answering, "dear" Kavin. > It's your choice. Really? Because it seems almost as if you'd like to make some people's choice for them. > KT> > 14 gauge is too small. 12 gauge is > KT> > still too small. > > A> Simply put: no > > Simply put, you are wrong. If you are going to > stretch from 14 to 12, and, oh my god!, what a > stretch, You should have started at 12. All nipples are created equal, eh, Kavin? No. > But even for males, 12 is too small. Again, those blanket statements aren't especially wise, imo. Is that true for EVERY male, Kavin? > You keep talking about migration. > The reason yours migrate is the small gauge. Forever and always? > Plain and simple. Like you? I rescind the question! Yes, plain and simple, however not necessarily accurate. > Again, let Curt be your guide. FINALLY you say something worthwhile. heh :o) > Ask him his failure (he'll say retirement You think in terms of good and bad, failure and success, without any regard for, yeah, the experience. :o) You're firmly and I'd say sadly in the Life is a Destination camp while I'm on the Life is a Journey Adventure Ride. How's that working out for you? Is that what your musical is all about, perhaps? > what shit!) Oh, don't be so hard on yourself, Kavin. > to success ratio. Yeah, it's impressive. Cool. [...] > I'll bet my double pierced nipples against > yours any day. Or any of the 40-something > others I have. That what this is about, Kavvy? "Mines bigger than yours?" > Again. listen to Curt. Cooler. > He's always right. Coolest. [...] > kavin -- Curt |
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We'll, apparently Kavin is a born and bred asshole. So be it. I don't
give a fuck. And to waste another minute on this "discussion" would only prove that I give afuck. Which I don't. Curt, you seem to have something going on upstairs, contrary to this other fella. I wish you luck along your journey. Yes, life is a journey, not a destination. Over and out (a least for now) |
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A wrote:
[...] > Curt, you seem to have something going > on upstairs, contrary to this other fella. I'd like to think so. Of course, perspective is a good word to keep in mind. What's viewed one way to you is obviously viewed another way by someone else. Regardless, thank you for your kind words. > I wish you luck along your journey. Likewise. > Yes, life is a journey, not a destination. > > Over and out (a least for now) :o) -- Curt |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "A" wrote: > > > Curt, you seem to have something going on upstairs, > > BWahahahahahahahahahahahhhhhhhhaaaaaa. > > You are so deluded. How so? Ari's not alone in that estimation. At least not as it relates to my scribbling here in RAB, anyway. I've been complimented more than once. Lish laughed at something I said, a rhyme, iirc, about someone. Hmm. And there was "Every now and rarely again, you rub out a good one. This was a good one," by way of a kindasorta complimentary remark. I'd say that was a good reflection on "something going on upstairs," right? Yes, ymmv. > But hey, go for it. Ah, encouragement. Yes, go for it! > Follow Curt's advice. My advice would be to relax. > Kavin -- Curt |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "A" wrote: > > > Yes, life is a journey, not a destination. > > How many take-out Chinese orders did it > take you to get that little bit of wisdom? None, I'll guess, as it was simply agreement with what I'd said earlier in the thread. What was that about my disagreeing with everything you say? I mean, you seem to have issues with anyone else agreeing. Kinda hypocritical on your part? Naaaaah! And, hey, how long did it take you to come up with "LITHA or LIMA are the preferred healing methods." as advice? Yeah, you're terribly original. ;o) > Kavin -- Curt |
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On Feb 21, 6:04 am, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote: > > "A" wrote: > > > > Yes, life is a journey, not a destination. > > > How many take-out Chinese orders did it > > take you to get that little bit of wisdom? > > None, I'll guess, as it was simply agreement with what I'd said > earlier in the thread. So now you are saying you are "A?" > > What was that about my disagreeing with everything you say? I mean, > you seem to have issues with anyone else agreeing. Kinda hypocritical > on your part? Not at all. Hypocrisy, unlike you, IS specific. > And, hey, how long did it take you to come up with "LITHA or LIMA are > the preferred healing methods." as advice? Yeah, you're terribly > original. ;o) Do your history work better. I named LITHA. lish named LIMA. Kavin |
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