Christian pediatrician denies child service because parents are tattooed

On Feb 18, 7:38 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote:
> > Because they are Christian? Close minded,
> > are we?
>
> Not necessarily. Might want to let Fred e'splain.

Oh, so now Fred means Curt?

And why the "e'splain?" Making fun of Fred? Calling him a stupid
Cuban? You do understand that was the whole point of Ricky Ricardo
don't you?

Yeah, Curt, you are so enlightened. What is that group you belong
to? The one that fights against bigotry?

Or maybe your real father was Cuban?


Kavin

On Feb 19, 7:18 am, "Lori" <LoriDontDoT...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 18, 1:11 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> A commonly and mistakenly held PROTESTANT FUNDAMENTALIST belief
> perhaps. Speaking from my Catholic perspective, such an action is not
> Christian but Pharasaical.

Sort of like the Pope, confession, no birth control?

>
> Christianity aside, the doctor's actions aren't even humanitarian,
> which one would expect any doctor to be.

And humanitarianism is secular, not religious. In fact, it is
borderline socialist. An earache is not life-threatening. And he is
not the only doctor in the insurance group. Why don't you search for
some posts from Dstress or Angie. Does it occur to you that the
mother is always looking for a fight because she is "tattooed and
pierced?"

>
> > Don't mistake Christian for forgiving or all-loving.
>
> Kavin, I'm a certified Catholic catechist. I'm fully educated on
> Christian theology and practice.

And your point is what? My statement is wrong?

You're also an insufferable cunt. Did the Catholic Church hold a
course in that, or did you come by it naturally?


Kavin
And it was all said in Christian love.

On Feb 19, 10:24 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > A commonly and mistakenly held PROTESTANT FUNDAMENTALIST belief
> > perhaps. Speaking from my Catholic perspective, such an action is not
> > Christian but Pharasaical.
>
> Sort of like the Pope, confession, no birth control?

Glad to see you don't deny it. If you'd like to lob doctrinal bombs
at each other I'd be more than happy to do that on another forum if
you so wish, but fair warning, stuff like that turns me on. ;)

> > Christianity aside, the doctor's actions aren't even humanitarian,
> > which one would expect any doctor to be.
>
> And humanitarianism is secular, not religious. In fact, it is
> borderline socialist.

Humanitarianism is not reserved for the secular alone. It can and
should be expected from a doctor, especially one who claims to be
Christian.

>An earache is not life-threatening.

It depends on the reason for the earache.

> And he is
> not the only doctor in the insurance group.

True; however, while the modified mom is searching for another doctor
her child suffers. I wonder if the doctor heals on the
Sabbath? ::heavy sarcasm::

> Why don't you search for
> some posts from Dstress or Angie. Does it occur to you that the
> mother is always looking for a fight because she is "tattooed and
> pierced?"

Whether the mom is looking for a fight is irrelevant. What is
relevant is a doctor who inhumanely turns away a child in need of
medical care simply because of the way her parents look based on some
cafeteria pick-and-choose of the Old Testament and calling it
Christian.

> > > Don't mistake Christian for forgiving or all-loving.
>
> > Kavin, I'm a certified Catholic catechist. I'm fully educated on
> > Christian theology and practice.
>
> And your point is what? My statement is wrong?

My point is, that you have no need to educate me on Christian
practice. Whether you are wrong or not would depend on your
definition of forgiving and all loving.

> You're also an insufferable cunt. Did the Catholic Church hold a
> course in that, or did you come by it naturally?

Neither. I learned it from reading your posts on RAB.

> Kavin
> And it was all said in Christian love.

::kiss kiss:: ;)

L.

"KavinTaylor@gmail.com" <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1171941429.668933.250700@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com:

> On Feb 18, 7:38 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kavin Taylor wrote:
>> > Because they are Christian? Close minded,
>> > are we?
>>
>> Not necessarily. Might want to let Fred e'splain.
>
> Oh, so now Fred means Curt?
>
> And why the "e'splain?" Making fun of Fred? Calling him a stupid
> Cuban? You do understand that was the whole point of Ricky Ricardo
> don't you?
>
> Yeah, Curt, you are so enlightened. What is that group you belong
> to? The one that fights against bigotry?
>
> Or maybe your real father was Cuban?
>
>
> Kavin
>
>

I replied but the response apparantly didn't make it. My apologies if
you get 2 copies. It follows. And I was not offended by the "e'splain".

Fred.

Subject: Re: Christian pediatrician denies child service because parents
are tattooed
Newsgroups: Cox:rec.arts.bodyart
To: Curt <curtjames@gmail.com>

"Curt" <curtjames@gmail.com> wrote in news:1171845538.469513.261470
@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

> Kavin Taylor wrote:
>> Fred wrote:
> [...]
>
>> > A company I am paying refers me to
>> > "Christian Medical Services". I don't
>> > think so. I would have never gone and
>> > insisted on going somewhere else.
>>
>> > Fred.
>>
>> Because they are Christian? Close minded,
>> are we?
>
> Not necessarily. Might want to let Fred e'splain. Or scream shoelaces
> as per your usual reaction.
>
>> So don't bitch if someone says anything
>> about tattoos or piercings.
>>
>> There is no difference.
>
> Triple duh, Kavvy.
>
> Fred - or anyone - choosing who to obtain services from is the
> personal choice of a *consumer* which is completely different when
> compared to an unjustifiable, imo, choice of a *provider*.
>

If someone calls their business "Christian Medical Services" I am sure
being a Christian is going to be obvious everywhere and I can expect a
conversion attempt which I do not want. If my Doctor is a Christian and
keeps that fact out of his practice I am prefectly willing to see them.
I say about religeon that it is similar to masturbation. It doesn't
produce anything, nothing is created by it. A lot of people spend a lot
of time on it and derive a great deal of pleasure from it. Most of all,
polite people do it in private. A Christian is very different than a
Christian that thrusts their beliefs on everyone.

Fred.

On Feb 20, 12:20 pm, Fred <n...@none.none> wrote:
> I say about religeon that it is similar to masturbation. It doesn't
> produce anything, nothing is created by it.

Fred, if masturbation doesn't PRODUCE an orgasm and CREATE sexual
release, then you must be doing it wrong! ;)

L.

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
> > Kavin Taylor wrote:
> > > Because they are Christian? Close minded,
> > > are we?
>
> > Not necessarily. Might want to let Fred e'splain.
>
> Oh, so now Fred means Curt?

Usenet, Kavvy. I can respond to a post without regard to who you
happened to be attacking at the time.

> And why the "e'splain?"

Why not? No different, from my perspective, than other conversational
schtufff I've used.

> Making fun of Fred?

Not at all.

> Calling him a stupid Cuban?

You seem to enjoy stereotypes as well as namecalling. As with the rest
of your typical comments, it all reflects on you.

> You do understand that was the whole point of Ricky Ricardo
> don't you?

Seriously, are you feeling well, Kavin?

> Yeah, Curt, you are so enlightened.

Cool.

> What is that group you belong to?

NAACP.

> The one that fights against bigotry?

The organization does more than that, of course.

> Or maybe your real father was Cuban?

I have a Puerto Rican flag hanging in my classroom. The Cuban flag is
similar. I mean, that was a rhetorical question, right?

> Kavin

--
Curt

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Lori" wrote:
[...]

> > Kavin, I'm a certified Catholic catechist. I'm fully
> > educated on Christian theology and practice.
>
> And your point is what? My statement is wrong?
>
> You're also an insufferable <snip>

i don't get your joke.

Not too fond of your tone, either. ;o)

--
Curt

Fred wrote:
[...]

> <snip> I was not offended by the "e'splain".

[...]

> If someone calls their business "Christian Medical Services" I am sure
> being a Christian is going to be obvious everywhere and I can expect a
> conversion attempt which I do not want.

Not necessarily, however, yeah, I guess I wouldn't be surprised.

> If my Doctor is a Christian and keeps that fact out of his practice I
> am prefectly willing to see them.

I can appreciate your perspective, however I am also perfectly willing
to thank any doc for his conversion attempt without accepting the
offer. Otoh, I'm already baptized, etc.

> I say about religeon that it is similar to masturbation. It doesn't
> produce anything, nothing is created by it. A lot of people spend a lot
> of time on it and derive a great deal of pleasure from it. Most of all,
> polite people do it in private.

Hear that joke about masturbation? That 99% of the population admit
freely that they participate in such activity.

And one percent lies.

(ba dump bump!)

> A Christian is very different than a Christian that thrusts their beliefs
> on everyone.

But part of being a Christian - at least in my Church of the Brethren
<http://www.brethren.org/> experience - is to do something called
witnessing. That is, to tell others that you're saved, etc., etc.

It's one thing to witness and another thing to be a freak and attempt
that aforementioned "thrusts" action, i.e. pushing too far. It's
idiotic, imo, to force your beliefs.

--
Curt

On Feb 20, 5:16 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a Puerto Rican flag hanging in my classroom. The Cuban flag is
> similar.

And I'm sure they stand for the same thing.

Curt, it's okay. Anyone reading RAB knows you have a hard-on for me.
You are going to post against anything I write.

Could you at least do it intelligently?

I'm almost feeling sorry for you. Maybe that tumor is affecting blood
flow to your brain.


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
>
> > I have a Puerto Rican flag hanging in my classroom.
> > The Cuban flag is similar.
>
> And I'm sure they stand for the same thing.

>From a design perspective. At least it's related to art. And, yes,
many people have tattoos of both those flags.

> Curt, it's okay.

Cool.

> Anyone reading RAB

Yeah, but no one is reading RAB. I mean, how soon they forget! I
destroyed RAB if you believe what's written. ;o)

> knows you have a hard-on for me.

Is that a figure of speech? Because I was thinking more along the
lines of Sharon Shahi, actually.

> You are going to post against anything I write.

Well, I did wish you a HBD. That's not what I'd call "against" you.
Ymmv.

> Could you at least do it intelligently?

I'll take humorously over intelligently, but, yeah, I'd say I'm doing
okay on at least one of those fronts. Can you say the same?

> I'm almost feeling sorry for you.

HA! Well, lookie here. Ol' Kavvy DOES have a sense of humor.

> Maybe that tumor is affecting blood flow to your brain.

Was that supposed to tumor or humor? Regardless, maybe it is. ;o)

> Kavin

--
Curt

On Feb 20, 11:43 am, "Lori" <LoriDontDoT...@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snipped>

I'm almost to the point of liking you -- not agreeing with you -- but
at least you know we are arguing Point A, then maybe Point B.

Stick around and perhaps you'll see why I think the parents should
just get over it and go to a different Dr.

K.

And maybe I meant shoelaces.

On Feb 20, 6:02 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote:
> > "Curt" wrote:
>
CURT> > > I have a Puerto Rican flag hanging in my classroom.
CURT> > > The Cuban flag is similar.
>
> > And I'm sure they stand for the same thing.

First, let's get this straight. The following is a Curt statement:

> >From a design perspective.

Yeah, one stands for a communist country, the other a commonwealth of
the US. Yeah, same thing.

Yes, they are both flags.

But not my point. Notice I said "what they stand for." I didn't say
look at the pretty colors. I didn't compare sizes.



CURT>And, yes,
>
CURT> many people have tattoos of both those flags.

At the same time? Cuban Puerto Ricans?


You're now to priapism.


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
[...]

Forgive this top-posting, but your attribution method is simply, uh,
dumb.

Anyway. I wrote, "I have a Puerto Rican flag hanging in my classroom."
and noted that "The Cuban flag is similar." I stated that their flags
are similar "From a design perspective."

> Yeah, one stands for a communist country,
> the other a commonwealth of the US.
> Yeah, same thing.

Duh, Kavin.

> Yes, they are both flags.

Do you understand that the word design can be interpreted as the
layout of the flags physical appearance? Its design elements? Have you
ever seen an image of either flag?

> But not my point.

Like I said, you don't have a point. It appears that you simply want
to whiiiiiine.

> Notice I said "what they stand for."

You also said "Ricky Ricardo" which has as much to do with my comments
as any of your other complaints.

> I didn't say look at the pretty colors.

And?

> I didn't compare sizes.

HA! You mention priapism below and then cry "I didn't compare sizes"
below? Hardy har har, Kavvy. You're awfully concerned about that bit,
it's apparent.

I also wrote, "And, yes, many people have
tattoos of both those flags."

> At the same time?

Oh, gotcha. I keep forgetting that I have to be veeerrrry specific and
unambiguous... wait.

I HAVE TO BE VERY *CLEAR* WITH YOU! Ahh, much better. Here, let me
restate that, Kavin:

And, yes, many people have tattoos of the Puerto Rican flag. Many
people have tattoos of the Cuban flag.

But, yeah, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some have tattoos of both
flags.

> Cuban Puerto Ricans?

Sure.

You think they don't exist?

> You're now to priapism.

You've really got issues, Kavvy.

> Kavin

--
Curt

On Feb 21, 6:42 am, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I wrote, "I have a Puerto Rican flag hanging in my classroom."
> and noted that "The Cuban flag is similar."

And I said "I'm sure they stand for the same thing."

You only brought up the design points after that. I'm sure you were
thinking only of the surface issue of the fact of their colors and
shapes.

I was pointing out a philosophical argument.

Sorry it went over your head. Getting up so early to answer my posts
probably does tire you out.

Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
[...]

> You only brought up the design points after
> that. I'm sure you were thinking only of the
> surface issue of the fact of their colors and
> shapes.

Uh, Kavin, those colors and shapes just happen to be the design
points.

> I was pointing out a philosophical argument.

What, Ricky Ricardo as a philosophical argument? Cool!

> Sorry it went over your head.

Hey, I'm only 6'1". ;o)

> Getting up so early

I've had the alarm set around 5:30 a.m. of late. Glad you're keeping
track, Kavvy.

> to answer my posts

heh

Hey, now, you've got it all wrong, Kavvy. It's all about ME. I mean,
if you believe the hype.

> probably does tire you out.

Fortunately, I have a goodly amount of energy to go along with my
naturally sunny disposition.

> Kavin

--
Curt