Christian pediatrician denies child service because parents are tattooed

On Feb 21, 6:34 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>. It's all about ME. I mean,
> if you believe the hype.

You mean the part about you being a misogynistic, ignorant, red neck,
probably fucked by his loving uncle, spawn of a drug-addicted supposed
virgin mother, who, when even spoken to by a female starts making
untoward comments and advances? The one who, in an open forum said
something to the effect of "Hey, you are all Black" when commenting on
a child (say again, child!) talking about another child's skin color?

Yeah. All about you.

Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
[...]

> <snip> you being a misogynistic,

Not at all.

> ignorant,

There's no limit to what I don't know. Learning is a wonderful
activity, of course. The troublesome people, imo, are those who don't
realize their own ignorance. Ymm(apparently)v.

> red neck,

Did you mean redneck? ;o)

(Googles)

"redneck n. Offensive Slang. Used as a disparaging term for a member
of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United
States."

Offensive is in the eye or ear of the beholder, naturally. Jeff
Foxworthy has made a mint off that word, redneck, yes? I'm relatively
white, born rural, and of the laboring class. I've done my fair share
of physical work, but not some much recently. Southern U.S. is not
applicable, although I loved my stay in Atlanta.

> probably <snip> by his loving uncle,

Tut tut. There you go with your personal fantasies again?
Interesting.

> spawn

Cool comic book character, btw.

> of a drug-addicted

Life's a drug!

> supposed virgin mother,

You HAVE read the book!

I do believe I've mentioned the whole virgin birth and Christ Jesus
Curtis James
phenomenon previously. Some might say I show Christlike patience with
you, Kavin. ;o)

> who,

When?

> when

Who?

> even spoken to by a female starts
> making untoward comments and
> advances?

Not my style. I'm incredibly shy, to be honest.

Even your pal Queen has stated that I wasn't making any comments wrt
her. Again, your research proves itself as apparently as miserable as
your person.

> The one who, in an open forum said
> something to the effect of "Hey, you
> are all Black"

If you believe - and I'm inclined to do just that -
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl... y&btnG=Search
a.k.a. http://tinyurl.com/33y8af then "Hey, you are all Black," may
indeed be applicable.

> when commenting on a child (say
> again, child!) talking about another
> child's skin color?

And? Race, color, ethnicity. Discuss. Again, the problem arises when
one encounters those who use terms in the pejorative.

You're familiar with using harmless terms as pejoratives, obviously.
Somethingsomething, 40, single, wears leather, what? In your
hypothetical scenario, you had your fictional mother and father
exclaim, what was it, again? And was it a bland observation or an
attempt at an insult?

> Yeah. All about you.

You seem to think so.

And I seem to think, yup, you got nuthin.

> Kavin

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Curt

On Feb 22, 7:12 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote:
>. I've done my fair share
> of physical work, but not some much recently. Southern U.S. is not
> applicable, although I loved my stay in Atlanta.


First, we'll ignore the misspelling. But Atlanta, huh? Was that to
visit your brother the teacher. A Mr. James was arrested recently for
diddling his students. He must be related. Last name "James." All
James are related, aren't they? Yes, and it fits with xyttrx theory
on you.
>
> And? Race, color, ethnicity. Discuss. Again, the problem arises when
> one encounters those who use terms in the pejorative.

Oh, so this quote, from you is what, a joke?:

/In the one school where I am currently teaching, I have heard
children
refer negatively to their classmates regarding their skin tone or
degree of blackness: "You're all black!" /


And wait, I have to point out that if a child is saying another child
is less because of skin color, your comment means they are all less.
They are all black.

Clever, Mr. James.

Paid up those NAACP dues?


Kavin

KavinTaylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
[...]

> > <snip> I've done my fair share of
> > physical work, but not some much
> > recently. Southern U.S. is not applicable,
> > although I loved my stay in Atlanta.
>
> First, we'll ignore the misspelling.

HA! :oD Yes, Kavin, I've noticed how very well you ignore things.
<snerk>

> But Atlanta, huh?

Nice town.

> Was that to visit your brother the teacher.

Again, your research is found to be lacking. No surprise, of course.

> A Mr. James was arrested recently for
> diddling his students.

And Sheriff Taylor was the arresting officer? Gooooo ANDY! ;o)

> He must be related.

No relatives in ATL, sorry.

> Last name "James." All James are related,
> aren't they?

That'd be nice, actually.

William James
Henry James
Rick James
Tommy James
Jesse James (The West Coast Choppers one, but, yeah, the outlaw and
his brother Frank were kinda interesting, too.)
Others, I'm certain.

And at least one Googleable Website offers that, "James is the #71
most common last name. 0.105% of last names in the US are James.
Around 262500 US last names are James!"

Sweet.

[...]

> > <snip> Again, the problem arises when
> > one encounters those who use terms in
> > the pejorative.
>
> Oh, so this quote, from you is what, a joke?:
>
> /In the one school where I am currently
> teaching, I have heard children refer
> negatively to their classmates regarding
> their skin tone or degree of blackness:
> "You're all black!" /
>
> And wait, I have to point out that if a child
> is saying another child is less because of
> skin color, your comment means they are
> all less.

If I'm contradicting the child then it should be obvious that I'm
disagreeing with that sentiment. Duh, Kavin.

> They are all black.

And beautiful, baby!

> Clever, Mr. James.
>
> Paid up those NAACP dues?

Have to renew. Again. You?

> Kavin

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Curt

On Feb 22, 9:35 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> KavinTaylor wrote:

kt> > Oh, so this quote, from you is what, a joke?:
>
> > /In the one school where I am currently
> > teaching, I have heard children refer
> > negatively to their classmates regarding
> > their skin tone or degree of blackness:
> > "You're all black!" /
>

>
c> If I'm contradicting the child then it should be obvious that I'm
c> disagreeing with that sentiment. Duh, Kavin.

And you contradicted how?

No, you "may" have pointed out the irony. You did not contradict the
child.

Admit it: you were trying to appear witty and it fell flat. Am I
saying you are a racist. No. Did you misspeak? Oh yeah.

kt> > Paid up those NAACP dues?
>
c> Have to renew. Again. You?
>

Sorry, I don't suffer from White Guilt.


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
[...]

> c> If I'm contradicting the child then it should be obvious that
> c> I'm disagreeing with that sentiment. Duh, Kavin.
>
> And you contradicted how?

Were you there? No. Are you looking for discourse? No. Nevertheless,
is your apparent and grasping frustration entertaining? Yes.

[...]

> You did not contradict the child.

Oh, that's right. I forgot that you were there.

> Admit it: you were trying to appear witty and it fell flat.

Opinion. Admit that.

> Am I saying you are a racist. No.

I assume you'd recognize racism. I mean, you seem familiar with using
gay as a pejorative term, so it's not - at least from my perspective -
that far a stretch to believe that you'd be equally intolerant in
other areas. Or am I your only weakness, Kavin?

> Did you misspeak? Oh yeah.

No. Did you misinterpret? Appears so.

> kt> > Paid up those NAACP dues?
>
> c> Have to renew. Again. You?
>
> Sorry, I don't suffer

Oh, you suffer, Kavin. Admit that, too. You suffer.

> from White Guilt.

If not from what you call "White Guilt" then perhaps from fear of the
next volleyball with your name on it. ;o)

> Kavin

Look out!

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Curt

On Feb 23, 4:21 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote:
>
Were you there?

Asshole, I quoted you, verbatim, from something you, that's YOU,
posted.

That is all I said. Your words.

So, hey, if the reality was different, learn to write better.

But then again, a 40-something white man saying "You're all black" to
a child.

Hey, if you want to stick to that, be my guest. You still have a
job. Consider yourself lucky.


Kavin

On Feb 23, 4:21 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>. I mean, you seem familiar with using
> gay as a pejorative term,

Uh, no Curt.

You took it as pejorative. I was only pointing out how people jump to
conclusions.

YOU are the one who keeps attaching pejorative to gay.

Have a problem with gay people, Curt?

Oh wait. You've brought up your NAACP thing. No, I won't go there.


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
[...]

> Were you there?

I thought that's what I asked you. ;o) Regardless, it was rhetorical.
I know that you weren't there.

> Asshole, I quoted you,

And?

> verbatim,

And?

> from something you, that's YOU, posted.

And?

> That is all I said. Your words.

And suddenly, in your mind, apparently, what I post is *all* that I
say. Interesting.

> So, hey, if the reality was different, learn
> to write better.

I'm afraid you're the one who'll have to adjust (your grip on
reality?), Kavin. I mean, you're the one complaining, right?

> But then again, a 40-something white man
> saying "You're all black" to a child.

Is that an insult in Atlanta? I don't think so.

> Hey, if you want to stick to that, be my
> guest.

Cool. You gotta big place? I stayed at the Sheraton the last time I
visited. How's your digs?

> You still have a job.

Yup. A megacoolwonderfulfine one, too.

> Consider yourself lucky.

I consider myself ~*BLESSED*~. And I consider you, well, not much at
all, honestly. ;o)

> Kavin

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Curt

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
>
> > <snip> I mean, you seem familiar with
> > using gay as a pejorative term,
>
> Uh, no Curt.

Uh, yes, Kavin. ;o)

How difficult is it to connect the dots? You've said you wish I was
dead. You commented that a fictional mom and dad would hear of a
single 40-year-old male and automatically turn to each other and
exclaim that the man is gay. Anyone having read your previous Curt
rants are to expect, assume, believe that you are using the term gay
in any way other than pejorative? Har! I don't think that's realistic,
Kavin. So, who's in denial? I say you, quite possibly.

> You took it as pejorative.

No. I asked if you were using the term in a pejorative manner. I
commented that it certainly *seems* as though you are. I'm sure you
don't see the difference between those examples and my taking it as a
pejorative use. Again (and again and again), no surprise that you'd
misinterpret and assume incorrectly. At least you're consistent. :o)

> I was only pointing out how people jump
> to conclusions.

And by people, do you mean only you?

> YOU are the one who keeps attaching
> pejorative to gay.

Never.

> Have a problem with gay people, Curt?

Not at all.

> Oh wait. You've brought up your NAACP
> thing.

Actually, you did, iirc.

> No, I won't go there.

i don't get your joke.

> Kavin

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Curt

On Feb 23, 10:38 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i don't get your joke.

It wasn't a joke. But then again, your post proved you are also
incapable of logic.

And yes, you should be dead.


Kavin

Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote:
>
> > i don't get your joke.
>
> It wasn't a joke.

i don't get your joke.

> But then again, your post proved

Proved? No, it simply pointed out your previous yammering and offered
up a possible somethingsomething. heh

> you are also incapable of logic.

Coming from you, those words might be considered a compliment. :o)

> And yes, you should be dead.

How do you know I'm not?

> Kavin

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Curt

Update at bottom:

Lori wrote:
> Christian pediatrician denies child service
> because parents are tattooed:
>
> BAKERSFIELD - A family is turned away
> by a local pediatrician, they say because
> of the way they look. The doctor said he is
> just following his beliefs, creating a Christian
> atmosphere for his patients...
> http://www.kget.com/news/local/story...90458b-dd7d-4a...
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/34l2mk
>
> ***********
> This is so wrong on so many levels. Actions
> like this are anything but Christian.
>
> L.

Furor leaves mark on doctor
Denying care for child of tattooed parents doesn't violate law, but
many question policy
By Emily Hagedorn

What started as a disagreement between a doctor and patients has
escalated into threats, name-calling on the blogosphere and a media
circus garnering the attention of local radio programs -- even a
mention on "The Colbert Report," a national comedy news show.

All this over one doctor's policy on tattoos.

"We just like to be upfront with everything," said Dr. Gary Alexander
Merrill of Christian Medical Services. "Our policies all reflect
consideration for conservative clientele in a traditional
atmosphere ... a sort of refuge from the crudeness and vulgarity of
the public sector."

Tasha Childress, whose daughter was denied care by Merrill because she
and her husband did not conceal their tattoos, brands it
discrimination, pure and simple.

But Merrill says the case was blown out of proportion after KGET-TV,
Channel 17, aired a news report on the dispute. The doctor accuses
KGET of twisting the facts, omitting key details and making him look
like a Christian zealot. Since the report aired, he has been the
target of threats and harassment.

KGET stands by the report, said John Pilios, news director. Pilios
said Merrill declined the offer to tell his side on camera.

It all started Feb. 7 when Childress took her toddler to Merrill's F
Street office with an ear infection. Childress, 24, said they were
refused care because of three visible star tattoos she and her
husband, Robert Childress, 26, have behind their ears.

Merrill and Childress agree she was told about the office's policies
regarding clean appearance when she made the appointment. She just
forgot about the star tattoos.

She turned down a referral and said she would acquiesce, he said.

"As the patient was being initially processed, the father was gently
reminded of his uncovered tattoos, and he became agitated and started
muttering profanities, which then developed into a threatening tirade
in our waiting room," Merrill said.

When told they would have to leave, the couple harassed Merrill's
staff by yelling, and Tasha Childress swung her arms toward the
employees, Merrill said.

Childress admits she became irate after being denied care, but she did
not try to harm anyone, she said. The toddler was treated by a
different doctor the next day.

Childress, who says she asked the Medical Board of California to
investigate, hopes Merrill changes the policy, but he isn't obligated
to do so.

The right to refuse service

It is perfectly acceptable to deny treatment in nonemergency
situations, though most physicians will refer a patient to another
provider or offer a window of time to find different care, said Dr.
Jeff Freesemann, president of the Kern County Medical Society.

Denying care based on tattoos does not fall under the government's
definition of discrimination, said Debbie Nelson, Medical Board of
California spokeswoman.

And in the event a patient is denied, referrals to other physicians is
a community standard, not law, she said.

"If you go to some restaurant and it says jacket and tie, is that
being prejudiced?" Freesemann asked. "They had a choice and knew what
their parameters were."

But being a physician "brings with it a greater duty to set aside
one's own personal beliefs," said Christopher Meyers, director of the
Kegley Institute of Ethics at Cal State Bakersfield and medical ethics
consultant to hospitals.

"If you see a child in distress, that should outweigh any sense or
distaste for one's body art," Meyers said.

Health Net of California, Childress' insurance company, has about 190
primary care physicians in the Bakersfield network, said Brad Kieffer,
Health Net of California spokesman.

If patients want to change physicians, they can, he said.

To his knowledge, the company has not had any other issues with
Merrill, who has a clean bill from the medical board.

Life since the incident

The office has received "phone disruptions, threats and harassment
from unidentified sources" since news got out about the incident,
Merrill said. "We have had to make minor adjustments in our business."

The police were called to the office Feb. 16 on a report of harassing
phone messages, but the source of the calls is unknown, said
Bakersfield Police Public Information Officer Greg Terry.

The level of care given to the 3,000 families Merrill sees has not
been compromised, he said.

Health Net of California is investigating the case to see if any
"quality of care" standards were violated, Kieffer said.

The medical board can't disclose if it is investigating, said Candis
Cohen, board spokeswoman.

"I have never heard of any doctor mixing their religion with their
practice," Childress said. "It's legal, but it shouldn't be." /copy
and paste from http://www.bakersfield.com/102/story/105015.html

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Curt