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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote: > > > Art is subjective. Imo, there are no > > bad tattoos. There are, however, > > tattoos that you like or that you don't > > like for personal reasons. > > So therefore, every time you give a grade > to a student it is based solely on your > opinion and is not based in any type of fact. Art IS subjective. However, many art teachers assign grades based on rubrics. A rubric allows for objectivity. Say, did you get a rubric with your last tattoo, Kavvy? Duh. Didn't think so. > I've forgotten not a thing Curt. Good. > You can attempt to change words but Do you remember if you've always been this way? > you will not win. Win? Is this a race to see who Lubbert Das calls a dope next? I won that race. Neener, neener! "Even a dope like Curt slaps you around over and over again and you think you are winning some sort of fight." Lubbert Das /Do/ you think you're winning some sort of fight, Kavin? Hmm. If so, well, maybe you're the winner of this month's dope race. ;o) > No bad, no good. Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. > You seem to believe that "like" and "good" > are the same creature. Creature! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ames/RAB/c.jpg > Kavin -- Curt |
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On Mar 12, 8:05 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Art IS subjective. However, many art teachers assign grades based on > rubrics. A rubric allows for objectivity. Oh, so now we have objective subjectivity. Paddle. Kavin |
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On Mar 12, 8:08 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote: > > [...] > > > If A=B, and B=C, then A=C. > > > And there is always 1=1. > > Someone needs a nap. Then you should close your eyes, sweetums. Oh, and A=A. Kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote: > > Kavin Taylor wrote: > > > [...] > > > > If A=B, and B=C, then A=C. > > > > And there is always 1=1. > > > Someone needs a nap. > > Then you should close your eyes, > sweetums. -=yawn=- > Oh, and A=A. AA, eh? Has your life become unmanageable? > Kavin -- Curt |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote: > > > Art IS subjective. However, many > > art teachers assign grades based on > > rubrics. A rubric allows for objectivity. > > Oh, so now we have objective subjectivity. I gather that you can read, Kavvy, but can you begin to comprehend? > Paddle. Maybe a comparison will help. Paddle, canoe, river, hmm. Okay, just as a rubric helps an individual navigate a subjective course of instruction, so does a paddle help an individual navigate a river. Well, given a canoe or some other flotation device. Maybe a volleyball would work. Find some white water and give it a go! > Kavin -- Curt |
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On Mar 13, 6:10 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote: > > Oh, and A=A. > > AA, eh? Has your life become unmanageable? Why did I know you wouldn't recognize it? And why did you got to AA with it? Something else your loving uncle taught you? Or was it Granny? Kavin |
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On Mar 13, 6:38 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote: > > "Curt" wrote: > > > > Art IS subjective. However, many > > > art teachers assign grades based on > > > rubrics. A rubric allows for objectivity. > kt> > Oh, so now we have objective subjectivity. > > I gather that you can read, Kavvy, but can you begin to comprehend? Truly. I understand that rubrics are used because teachers have become pussies and can no longer control what they do. You put down in writing the objectives so not only will the student do exactly what you want, but you HAVE to grade the project according to the rubric. "Oh, my hands are tied because the student reached the objectives I laid out." Brilliant. I've been to the web-sites. These types of things happen when people are insecure in their abilities. I'd say that fits you perfectly. I'll bet your middle name is Rubric. > kt> > Paddle. > > Maybe a comparison will help. > > Paddle, canoe, river, hmm. > > Okay, just as a rubric helps an individual navigate a subjective > course of instruction, so does a paddle help an individual navigate a > river. No a paddle is a way to move the canoe. It navigates in a strictly physical manner. The rubric is more like a set of instructions that says: Stroke on left side once, right side four times, then repeat. At the third rock, you will get out of the water and transport the canoe to river #2, etc. If you do not accomplish these tasks, the instructor will lower your grade. Try this one: A rubric is the guide used to score performance assessments in a reliable, fair, and valid manner and is generally composed of dimensions for judging student performance, a scale for rating performances on each dimension, and standards of excellence for specified performance levels. pals.sri.com/pals/guide/glossary.html Did I miss something Curt? Oh, wait, you never said YOU used them. Kavin |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote: > > Kavin Taylor wrote: > > > Oh, and A=A. > > > AA, eh? Has your life become unmanageable? > > Why did I know It's apparent that you don't know much, Kav. ;o) > you wouldn't recognize it? Define it. > And why did you got to AA with it? A=A is not a far leap, at least visually, from AA. > Something else your loving uncle taught you? Newp. > Or was it Granny? Repetitive, Kavvy. Still, always brings a smile. http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...0hillbil lies aka http://tinyurl.com/2ub76w I loved that show. Found this granny, too, while doing the Google. http://www.wayodd.com/funny-pictures...granny-jvk.jpg aka http://tinyurl.com/2lkdqm Not for you, specifically. Just a cute pic. > Kavin -- Curt |
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Kavin Taylor wrote:
> "Curt" wrote: > Kavin Taylor wrote: > > > "Curt" wrote: > > > > > Art IS subjective. However, many > > > > art teachers assign grades based on > > > > rubrics. A rubric allows for objectivity. > > kt> > Oh, so now we have objective subjectivity. > > > I gather that you can read, Kavvy, but > > can you begin to comprehend? > > Truly. Really? > I understand that rubrics are used > because teachers have become pussies > and can no longer control what they do. So, if I don't use a rubric, then what? > You put down in writing the objectives > so not only will the student do exactly > what you want, Zat so? > but you HAVE to grade the project > according to the rubric. Forevah and always? > "Oh, my hands are tied because the > student reached the objectives I > laid out." And that's your fantasy quote of the minute, Kavvy? > Brilliant. Unlike you, apparently. > I've been to the web-sites. Cite? > These types of things happen when > people are insecure in their abilities. > > I'd say that fits you perfectly. I'll bet > your middle name is Rubric. Go with that. :o) > kt> > Paddle. > > > Maybe a comparison will help. > > > Paddle, canoe, river, hmm. > > > Okay, just as a rubric helps an individual > > navigate a subjective course of instruction, > > so does a paddle help an individual > > navigate a river. I say yes and you say... > No HA! An experiment: Up. Black. Full. :oD > a paddle is a way to move the canoe. > It navigates in a strictly physical manner. You sure about that? > The rubric is more like a set of instructions > that says: Stroke on left side once, right > side four times, then repeat. At the third > rock, you will get out of the water and > transport the canoe to river #2, etc. You like canoes? > If you do not accomplish these tasks, > the instructor will lower your grade. Always? > Try this one: > > A rubric is the <snip> > Did I miss something Curt? Yes. All the fun schtufff. Try again. > Oh, wait, you never said YOU used > them. And? Again, if I don't use a rubric, then what? Well, Kavin Have-Yer- Cake-And-Eat-It-Too Taylor, what if I *don't* say, "Oh, my hands are tied because the student reached the objectives I laid out," hmm? What then? > Kavin Hey, you and your one paddle have neatly circled back to the subject of art by way of painting yourself into a corner. Not a bad way to spend your time, I'd guess. ;o) -- Curt |
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On Mar 14, 3:44 pm, "Curt" <curtja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kavin Taylor wrote: > > "Curt" wrote: > > Kavin Taylor wrote: > > > > "Curt" wrote: > > > > > > Art IS subjective. However, many > > > > > art teachers assign grades based on > > > > > rubrics. A rubric allows for objectivity. > > > kt> > Oh, so now we have objective subjectivity. > > > > I gather that you can read, Kavvy, but > > > can you begin to comprehend? > > > Truly. > > Really? > > > I understand that rubrics are used > > because teachers have become pussies > > and can no longer control what they do. > > So, if I don't use a rubric, then what? > > > You put down in writing the objectives > > so not only will the student do exactly > > what you want, > > Zat so? > > > but you HAVE to grade the project > > according to the rubric. > > Forevah and always? > > > "Oh, my hands are tied because the > > student reached the objectives I > > laid out." > > And that's your fantasy quote of the minute, Kavvy? > > > Brilliant. > > Unlike you, apparently. > > > I've been to the web-sites. > > Cite? > > > These types of things happen when > > people are insecure in their abilities. > > > I'd say that fits you perfectly. I'll bet > > your middle name is Rubric. > > Go with that. :o) > > > kt> > Paddle. > > > > Maybe a comparison will help. > > > > Paddle, canoe, river, hmm. > > > > Okay, just as a rubric helps an individual > > > navigate a subjective course of instruction, > > > so does a paddle help an individual > > > navigate a river. > > I say yes and you say... > > > No > > HA! An experiment: > > Up. > Black. > Full. > > :oD > > > a paddle is a way to move the canoe. > > It navigates in a strictly physical manner. > > You sure about that? > > > The rubric is more like a set of instructions > > that says: Stroke on left side once, right > > side four times, then repeat. At the third > > rock, you will get out of the water and > > transport the canoe to river #2, etc. > > You like canoes? > > > If you do not accomplish these tasks, > > the instructor will lower your grade. > > Always? > > > Try this one: > > > A rubric is the <snip> > > Did I miss something Curt? > > Yes. > > All the fun schtufff. Try again. > > > Oh, wait, you never said YOU used > > them. > > And? Again, if I don't use a rubric, then what? Well, Kavin Have-Yer- > Cake-And-Eat-It-Too Taylor, what if I *don't* say, "Oh, my hands are > tied because the student reached the objectives I laid out," hmm? What > then? > > > Kavin > > Hey, you and your one paddle have neatly circled back to the subject > of art by way of painting yourself into a corner. Not a bad way to > spend your time, I'd guess. ;o) [...] Hey, Kavvy, replying to my own post here because, well, it's typical of you to run up against a few of my post and then quit. You know, just snip it all and add a "Curt wrote:" with NOTHING attached that I'd written. Honestly, I don't blame you. Anyway I mentioned that I thought you'd missed all the fun stuff or schtufff, what have you. Just got back from the grocery where I picked up some orange juice and browsed the current Rolling Stone and saw America Ferrera (sp?) from, I think it was titled _Real Women Have Curves_. Anywayanyways, I've never seen her new show _Ugly Betty_ but I remember her from the movie and also she's on the cover of Entertainment Weekly, iirc. And what i DO recall correctly is that Stephen King has a column in the back of the magazine and in this week's or month's or whatever's column, he's calling for the creation of a Department of Fun. Don't wait by the phone. He mentioned comedian Lewis Black as a nomination or a person to help run the DOF. Whatever. I'm just saying. YOU need some fun. Get some. And, hey, why don't you follow your own advice and, how'd you put it? Think really, really hard before you reply? I think that was it. Good luck. -- Curt |
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[...] > Hey, Kavvy, replying to my own post > here because, well, it's typical of you to > run up against a few of my post and then > quit. You know, just snip it all and add > a "Curt wrote:" with NOTHING attached > that I'd written. Honestly, I don't blame > you. [...] > Stephen King has a column in the back > of the magazine<snip>, he's calling for > the creation of a Department of Fun. To wit: http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20014048,00.html aka http://tinyurl.com/25fdun [...] -- Curt |