Three questions on helix piercings.

So, I want to get a helix piercing or two, and I have a few questions.

First question: since it is just a simple helix, should I consider
just buying some sterile needles and doing it myself/have a friend do
it? If yes, what gauge needles should I get, and what type of CBR
works well in a new cartilage hole?

Second question: If you said "no" to doing it myself, where should I
go to get it done? I've done a bit of research and know that guns are
bad for cartilage, but I don't know a good place in the Aurora, CO
area. I've seen this tat shop in the Aurora Mall that does piercings
and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on that place. Don't
worry, I'm not going near the kiosks in the mall.

Third question: Should I get one hole or two? I'm a 21 year old
straight male and have never had anything pierced before. My options
here are one hole in the left ear or two holes in the left ear. I
kinda want to do two holes, but I'm worried that I will have twice the
pain and twice the chance of complications.

So, thank you all in advance for your advice.
`n0

TheOnlyN0B0DY@gmail.com wrote:

> First question: since it is just a simple helix, should I consider
> just buying some sterile needles and doing it myself/have a friend do
> it?

No. While it seems pretty straightforward (push needle through, follow
with jewelry), helixes can look pretty silly when the placement isn't
right. Plus all the usual warnings about infections from unsterilized
jewelry etc. etc. Cartilage infections are not to be trifled with, but
most infections happen *after* the piercing anyway, so you have that
risk no matter what.

> Second question: If you said "no" to doing it myself, where should I
> go to get it done?

Somewhere where they use dermal punches (and know what they're doing- if
they tell you it works like a cookie cutter, run). Seems like overkill
for a simple helix? You're looking at six months of healing, until then,
to avoid potentially unsightly complications like hypertrophic scarring,
you shouldn't sleep on that ear. The healing period is so long because
tissue gets pushed to the side by the jewelry (the needle doesn't remove
tissue) and then slowly dies off from the pressure and is removed by the
body to make room. Since cartilage itself has no blood vessels (it
relies on the skin for oxygen supply), this takes a long time. It also
hurts for a long time.
Now, the dermal punch: it takes out a small amount of tissue (12 or 14
ga is the smallest, you can also just insert a 14 ga ring into a 12 ga
hole if there's no 14 ga punch, it will adjust just fine), and since
there is no pressure on the wound, it's healed in about 4 weeks, without
the discomfort that's usually associated with cartilage piercings. I
speak from experience with a punched helix industrial, helix, and conch
vs regular daith, snug, helix, conch etc).
The downside: the amount of blood involved, if you're a pussy :D

> Third question: Should I get one hole or two? I'm a 21 year old
> straight male and have never had anything pierced before. My options
> here are one hole in the left ear or two holes in the left ear. I
> kinda want to do two holes, but I'm worried that I will have twice the
> pain and twice the chance of complications.

Dude, just get what you think looks best. Left, right, one in each, two
in each, doesn't matter. There will always be those who'll think you're
gay for getting your ears pierced at all. Just offer to lick their balls
and see them run.

Nina
--
C'est les microbes qui auront le dernier mot.
Louis Pasteur
http://www.chaotropic.net

On Mar 6, 8:56 am, TheOnlyN0B...@gmail.com wrote:
> So, I want to get a helix piercing or two, and I have a few questions.
>
> First question: since it is just a simple helix, should I consider
> just buying some sterile needles and doing it myself/have a friend do
> it? If yes, what gauge needles should I get, and what type of CBR
> works well in a new cartilage hole?
>
> Second question: If you said "no" to doing it myself, where should I
> go to get it done? I've done a bit of research and know that guns are
> bad for cartilage, but I don't know a good place in the Aurora, CO
> area. I've seen this tat shop in the Aurora Mall that does piercings
> and was wondering if anyone had an opinion on that place. Don't
> worry, I'm not going near the kiosks in the mall.
>
> Third question: Should I get one hole or two? I'm a 21 year old
> straight male and have never had anything pierced before. My options
> here are one hole in the left ear or two holes in the left ear. I
> kinda want to do two holes, but I'm worried that I will have twice the
> pain and twice the chance of complications.
>
> So, thank you all in advance for your advice.
> `n0

If you want to find someone good in your area try this website
www.safepiercing.org and look for members in your area they should
have at least one member of the association of professional piercers
(APP) in your area or with in a 30 min. Drive. Good Luck!!!

On Mar 6, 2:28 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
<chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If you want to find someone good in your area try this websitewww.safepiercing.

And I see they are STILL suggesting antimicrobial soap.

Yeah, makes for a good endorsement.


Kavin

On Mar 6, 12:25 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 6, 2:28 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
>
> <chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you want to find someone good in your area try this websitewww.safepiercing.
>
> And I see they are STILL suggesting antimicrobial soap.
>
> Yeah, makes for a good endorsement.
>
> Kavin

Antimicrobial soap will not hurt your piercing

On Mar 6, 4:48 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
<chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Antimicrobial soap will not hurt your piercing

Define "hurt"

There is no need for antimicrobial soap. Plain old soap and water is
sufficient.

Kavin

On 6 Mar 2007 08:56:41 -0800, TheOnlyN0B0DY@gmail.com wrote:

>So, I want to get a helix piercing or two, and I have a few questions.

Nina gave you some excellent information that I won't bother
repeating, however, I'll throw in an opinion here:

>Third question: Should I get one hole or two? I'm a 21 year old
>straight male and have never had anything pierced before. My options
>here are one hole in the left ear or two holes in the left ear. I
>kinda want to do two holes, but I'm worried that I will have twice the
>pain and twice the chance of complications.

If they are in the same ear, have them done at the same time, if you
really want them. It takes a significant amount of time before it's
really comfortable to sleep on that side, so you might as well do it
once rather than twice. It's more like just a little more discomfort
than twice, and you're going to get it done properly and take care of
them really well, so that complication thing isn't going to be a
problem. ;-D

nj"oh holey mio"m


--
"You always know after you are two. Two is the beginning of the end"

On Mar 6, 2:12 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 6, 4:48 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
>
> <chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Antimicrobial soap will not hurt your piercing
>
> Define "hurt"
>
> There is no need for antimicrobial soap. Plain old soap and water is
> sufficient.
>
> Kavin

Your right there is no need for the soap but........ most people have
it in their head that they have to wash it and if you are going to
wash your piercing 2 times a day you should be using satin or provon
so that the soap you are using does not irritate the piercing if you
ask me what I do for aftercare my answer would be "Leave it the fuck
alone" if you don't touch it the piercing wont be dirty but most
people do touch it so then you need antimicrobial soap the reason I
say antimicrobial is cause most people want you to tell them what to
buy if you leave it up to them they will end up using dial like their
friend is going to tell them.

On Mar 6, 5:53 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
<chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 6, 2:12 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 6, 4:48 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
>
> > <chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Antimicrobial soap will not hurt your piercing
>
> > Define "hurt"
>
> > There is no need for antimicrobial soap. Plain old soap and water is
> > sufficient.
>
> > Kavin
>
> Your right there is no need for the soap but........ most people have
> it in their head that they have to wash it and if you are going to
> wash your piercing 2 times a day you should be using satin or provon
> so that the soap you are using does not irritate the piercing

Dr. Bronners, Ivory and a host of others are mild. You don't need to
leave it on for 30 minutes.



most
> people do touch it so then you need antimicrobial soap


No. You are an idiot. Stop posting advice. Period.


And by the way, who the fuck are you?

Kavin

On Mar 6, 3:39 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 6, 5:53 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mar 6, 2:12 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 6, 4:48 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
>
> > > <chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Antimicrobial soap will not hurt your piercing
>
> > > Define "hurt"
>
> > > There is no need for antimicrobial soap. Plain old soap and water is
> > > sufficient.
>
> > > Kavin
>
> > Your right there is no need for the soap but........ most people have
> > it in their head that they have to wash it and if you are going to
> > wash your piercing 2 times a day you should be using satin or provon
> > so that the soap you are using does not irritate the piercing
>
> Dr. Bronners, Ivory and a host of others are mild. You don't need to
> leave it on for 30 minutes.
>
> most
>
> > people do touch it so then you need antimicrobial soap
>
> No. You are an idiot. Stop posting advice. Period.
>
> And by the way, who the fuck are you?
>
> Kavin- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I didn't say any of those soaps don't work and you are blowing this
WAY out of proportion. At First I was not giving any advice just
sugesting a website with advice on how to find a good piercer in his
area you are the one jumping down my throat for telling someone to use
soap that kills germs instead of a soap that doesn't maybe you should
stop I am just telling him maybe he should check out a website with
advice put together by a large group of very qualified piercers who
have been in the business for many years and are devoted to helping
the industry thrive and you want to have a holier than thou atttitude
and shoot out a comeback saying

> And I see they are STILL suggesting antimicrobial soap.


> Yeah, makes for a good endorsement

we both have agreed that you can use antimicrobial soap, or pure
castile soap, or alot of other soaps so what are you arguing with me
about really. Please tell me how telling someone that if they touch
their piercing they should wash it with antimicrobial is giving bad
advice.

And by the way, who the fuck are you?

On Mar 6, 11:57 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
<chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> wrote:
> I didn't say any of those soaps don't work and you are blowing this
> WAY out of proportion. At First I was not giving any advice just
> sugesting a website with advice on how to find a good piercer in his
> area you are the one jumping down my throat for telling someone to use
> soap that kills germs instead of a soap that doesn't

No, cuntnugget, there is no need for antimicrobial soap for everyday
cleaning.

> maybe you should
> stop

You should shut the fuck up and go away. Notice I did not say
"maybe."

> I am just telling him maybe he should check out a website with
> advice put together by a large group of very qualified piercers who
> have been in the business for many years and are devoted to helping
> the industry thrive and you want to have a holier than thou atttitude
> and shoot out a comeback saying

First, you should know what you are talking about. I do know about
the APP. and no, they are not the be-all, end-all. Qualified is
generic term the way you use it.



> we both have agreed that you can use antimicrobial soap,

And you can develop a bacteria that is resistant to everything. Is
that your goal? Stick to your piss-poor website "about exciting
trends in jewelry!"


> Please tell me how telling someone that if they touch
> their piercing they should wash it with antimicrobial is giving bad
> advice.

Why don't you research why using antimicrobial soaps helps bacteria
develop resistance to commonly used antibiotics?
>
> And by the way, who the fuck are you?-

Someone better than you, smarter than you and someone capable of
writing better than fifth-grader.

Kavin

KavinTaylor@gmail.com <KavinTaylor@gmail.com> wrote:
Kgc> No, cuntnugget, there is no need for antimicrobial soap for everyday

*ch-ching*

lish "ask me the questions
crank@got.net you never want answers to." -we
43.9% / 30 RANA 128 / 70

On 7 Mrz., 04:57, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
<chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> area you are the one jumping down my throat for telling someone to use
> soap that kills germs instead of a soap that doesn't maybe you should

*All* soaps are antimicrobial by their very nature.
Those with extra antimicrobial substances like Triclosan *added* are
the problem because they promote resistance development against
disinfectants commonly used in hospitals, for example, and there's
also evidence for cross resistance against triclosan and antibiotics
in Pseudomonas.

In other words: soaps with added antimicrobials = stupid and
dangerous.

They do help make a good profit off the uninformed, though.

Nina
P.S. look what I found: ..................,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

On Mar 7, 4:54 am, "Nina Baltes" <chaotro...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> In other words: soaps with added antimicrobials = stupid and
> dangerous.


But, but, but the APP says they are okay and recommends them


Kavin

chantel.blackmore@gmail.com <chantel.blackmore@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:39 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Mar 6, 5:53 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Mar 6, 2:12 pm, "KavinTay...@gmail.com" <KavinTay...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > On Mar 6, 4:48 pm, "chantel.blackm...@gmail.com"
>>
>> > > <chantel.blackm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Antimicrobial soap will not hurt your piercing
>>
>> > > Define "hurt"
>>
>> > > There is no need for antimicrobial soap. Plain old soap and water is
>> > > sufficient.
>>
>> > > Kavin
>>
>> > Your right there is no need for the soap but........ most people have
>> > it in their head that they have to wash it and if you are going to
>> > wash your piercing 2 times a day you should be using satin or provon
>> > so that the soap you are using does not irritate the piercing
>>
>> Dr. Bronners, Ivory and a host of others are mild. You don't need to
>> leave it on for 30 minutes.
>>
>> most
>>
>> > people do touch it so then you need antimicrobial soap
>>
>> No. You are an idiot. Stop posting advice. Period.
>>
>> And by the way, who the fuck are you?
>>
>> Kavin- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I didn't say any of those soaps don't work and you are blowing this
> WAY out of proportion. At First I was not giving any advice just
> sugesting a website with advice on how to find a good piercer in his
> area you are the one jumping down my throat for telling someone to use
> soap that kills germs instead of a soap that doesn't maybe you should
> stop I am just telling him maybe he should check out a website with
> advice put together by a large group of very qualified piercers who
> have been in the business for many years and are devoted to helping
> the industry thrive and you want to have a holier than thou atttitude
> and shoot out a comeback saying
>
>> And I see they are STILL suggesting antimicrobial soap.
>
>
>> Yeah, makes for a good endorsement
>
> we both have agreed that you can use antimicrobial soap, or pure
> castile soap, or alot of other soaps so what are you arguing with me
> about really. Please tell me how telling someone that if they touch
> their piercing they should wash it with antimicrobial is giving bad
> advice.
>
> And by the way, who the fuck are you?
>

No. The question is, WHO THE FUCK ARE *YOU*?

And here's the answer:

You're the asshole who's going to go away now. Bye!




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