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M'I.5 Persecuti on , c ost of th e operation

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Old 01-01-2008, 04:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Here's what a couple of other people on Usenet. (uk.misc) had to say
regarding the cost. of running such an operation...

PO: >Have some sense,. grow up and smell reality. What you are talking about
PO: >would take loads of planning,. tens of thousands of pounds and lots of
PO: >people involved in the. planning, execution and maintenance of it. You
PO: >must have a very high. opinion of yourself to think you are worth it.

PM: >But why? And why you? Do you. realize how much it would cost to keep
PM: >one. person under continuous surveillance for five years? Think about
PM: >all the man/hours. Say. they _just_ allocated a two man team and a
PM: >supervisor.. OK., Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a year. Two men,
PM: >#20,000 a year each. But they'd need to work in shifts. -- so it would
PM: >be six men. at #20,000 (which with on-costs would work out at more like
PM: >#30,000 to. the employer.)
PM:. >
PM: >So,. we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for the
PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then. you've got the hardware involved. And
PM: >any transcription. that needs doing. You don't think the 'Big Boss'
PM: >would listen to hours and hours of. tapes, do you.
PM:. >
PM: >So, all in all, you couldn't actually do the job for much less. than
PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five years.. What are you doing that makes
PM: >it worth the while. of the state to spend over one and a quarter million
PM:. >on you?

Those are pretty much. the sort of calculations that went through my head
once I. stopped to consider what it must be costing them to run this
operation. The partial answer is, there have been periods when. the
intensity has. been greater, and times when little has happened. In fact,
for much of 1993 and the first half of. 1994, very little happened. Although
I don't think that was for reasons of money - if they can tap. into the
taxpayer they're not going. to be short of resources, are they?

The more complete. answer is in the enormity of what they're doing. Relative
to the cost to. British pride of seeing their country humiliated for the
persecution of their own citizens, isn't is worth the cost. of four or five
people to try. to bring things to a close in the manner they would wish? To
the government a million or two is quite honestly. nothing - if they can
convince themselves of the. necessity of what they're doing, resources will
not. be the limiting factor.

8959

 
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Old 01-24-2008, 04:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1735, the town seemed to be full of
the presence of God: it never was so full of love, nor of joy, and yet
so full of distress, as it was then. There were remarkable tokens of
God's presence in almost every house. It was a time of joy in families
on account of salvation being brought to them; parents rejoicing over
their children as new born, and husbands over their wives, and wives
over their husbands. The doings of God were then seen in His sanctuary,
God's day was a delight, and His tabernacles were amiable. Our public
assemblies were then beautiful: the congregation was alive in God's
service, every one earnestly intent on the public worship, every hearer
eager to drink in the words of the minister as they came from his mouth;
the assembly in general were, from time to time, in tears while the word
was preached; some weeping with sorrow and distress, others with joy and
love, others with pity and concern for the souls of their neighbors.

Our public praises were then greatly enlivened; God was then served in
our psalmody, in some measure, in the beauty of holiness. It has been
observable, that there has been scarce any part of divine worship,
wherein good men amongst us have had grace so drawn forth, and their
hearts so lifted up in the ways of God, as in singing His praises. Our
congregation excelled all that ever I knew in the external part of the
duty before, the men generally carrying regularly, and well, three parts
of music, and the women a part by themselves; but now they were
evidently wont to sing with unusual elevation of heart and voice, which
made the duty pleasant indeed.

In all companies, on other days, on whatever occasions persons met
together, Christ was to be heard of, and seen in the midst of them. Our
young people, when they met, were wont to spend the time in talking of
the excellency and dying love of Jesus Christ, the glory of the way of
salvation, the wonderful, free, and sovereign grace of God, His glorious
work in the conversion of a soul, the tru


 
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in the earth shall bless himself in God, etc., because the former
troubles are forgotten.

"For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former things
shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

"But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create; for, behold, I
create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

"And I will rejoice in Jerusalem and joy in my people; and the voice of
weeping shall no more be heard in her, nor the voice of crying.

"Before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will
hear. The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat
straw like the bullock; and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not
hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain."

Is. 56:3: "Thus saith the Lord, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my
salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.

"Blessed is the man that doeth this, that keepeth the Sabbath, and keepeth
his hand from doing any evil.

"Neither let the strangers that have joined themselves to me, say, God will
separate me from His people. For thus saith the Lord: Whoever will keep my
Sabbath, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
even unto them will I give in mine house a place and a name better than that
of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall
not be cut off."

Is. 59:9: "Therefore for our iniquities is justice far from us: we wait for
light, but behold obscurity; for brightness, but we walk in darkness. We
grope for the wall like the blind; we stumble at noonday as in the night: we
are in desolate places as dead men.

"We roar


 
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I then had with her, it appeared to me, that
what she gave an account of, was a glorious work of God's infinite power
and sovereign grace; and that God had given her a new heart, truly
broken and sanctified. I could not then doubt of it, and have seen much
in my acquaintance with her since to confirm it.

Though the work was glorious, yet I was filled with concern about the
effect it might have upon others. I was ready to conclude (though too
rashly), that some would be hardened by it in carelessness and looseness
of life; and would take occasion from it to open their mouths in
reproaches of religion. But the event was the reverse, to a wonderful
degree. God made it, I suppose, the greatest occasion of awakening to
others, of any thing that ever came to pass in the town. I have had
abundant opportunity to know the effect it had, by my private
conversation with many. The news of it seemed to be almost like a flash
of lightning, upon the hearts of young people, all over the town, and
upon many others. Those persons amongst us, who used to be farthest from
seriousness, and that I most feared would make an ill improvement of it,
seemed to be awakened with it. Many went to talk with her, concerning
what she had met with; and what appear


 
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